carelesscolumbine:

The RNN interview was amazing. He looks so sweet and gentle in it. I love how he smiles and laughs. And when he fixes his hat. He had such pretty eyes.

Agreed. 🙂   His facial features remind me of a marble roman statue in this one. He’s got really porcelain-clear, perfect good skin for a teenage boy and apparently still sporting the shorter hair and clean shaven look first semester of Junior year. He’s got those half crescent shaped eyes with alluring down-turned corners that compliments against the soft line of his perfect brow that arches outward and also that very distinguished, slightly downward sloping nose.  Dyl looks a very healthy weight and a sold build here.  In between those self conscious moments of him gazing back at the camera a little timidly, once he looks back at the interviewer, there’s that very strong eye contact that he makes and then that smile that spreads across his face and when he does, he just sparkles charming-disarmingly. ❤   It was a innocent moment of messing around for the Golden Boy with such future promise. He was teetering on the eve of his downward spiraling destruction, mere hours away from a big mistake that would spell his crash course with doom. After this night he would think of himself ashamedly as nothing more than a criminal.

Look on the bright side cos that may very well be in her book.  😉

Yep Dylan was taller than Byron – we speculated and I suspected as such here    It’s still difficult to say what their height difference is given the new photo –  simply for the fact that Dyan is in the foreground and Bryon, kitty corner, and off in the backdrop. Plus, Bryon is leaning forward a bit. This gives the optical illusion that Dylan looks not only tall but that his arms look more substantial and built than Byron who looks kinda petite in the backdrop hunched over.  So, I’d say Byron was around 6′0 – 6′1 at the most (and that’s pushing it a bit)  to Dylan’s 6′3.  And yes, Dylan had already shot up to be all lanky and tall in the midst of his sophomore year.  Think Sue’s genetics really provided a lot of characteristics for her golden haired, Sunshine Boy. 🙂 

leatherwolf99:

Tom and Sue Klebold got married in 1971. Diane said “after nearly 30 years of marriage” they are now divorced. 30 years would have been 2001. So, they must have gotten divorced not long after Columbine.

If that’s the case, Sue would’ve been in the middle of her breast cancer crisis. I think the wording on that was mostly confusing rather than informative. 

columbine-high:

• Had her eldest son become troubled and involved with drugs.

• Had her younger son be involved in a shooting where he killed people.

• Had her son kill himself shortly after.

• Had hate and threats, vile things constantly said to her.

• Was unable to grieve for her own son, was shamed for it.

• Had/has to take the blame for what Dylan did.

• Has to hear people call her son a monster, and her people call her a bad parent.

• Became suicidal.

• Got diagnosed with breast cancer.

• Went through a divorce.

• Had to wait 17 years to reveal her side of the story.

• Still gets treated with disrespect and has her words twisted.

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• Has been involved in charity and helping others before the shooting, even on the day of.

• Reached out to all the victims and families. Is genuinely sorry, especially in her letters.

• Actively helps with mental awareness and charities.

• Is donating all the proceeds of her book to mental health charities.

• Thinks about the victims daily.

• Said that she would do anything for the families of the victims.

• Is all around a kind and caring woman, and, a great mother.

🙌🏻💗🙌🏻🏅👑🎗

racheljoyscott:

One night, Sue was frustrated that Dylan was not doing his chores, he seemed withdrawn. She thought he needed more discipline. Sue pushed Dylan against the refrigerator.

“And I said, you know, you gotta stop thinking of yourself! You have to stop being so selfish!” Sue says, as she begins to cry.

“I gave him the old mom lecture, and then I said ‘and by the way it was Mother’s Day today and you forgot it.’ And I don’t remember how that confrontation ended, I just remember him softly saying mom please don’t push me I don’t know how much longer I can control myself. It wasn’t a scary thing, it was just him being nice, saying back off please.”

She said she blames herself for pushing him too far.

“Then he went out and got me a gift. It was a little water can with african violets in it. I thought everything was fine because he was just so sweet!”

💌🌺👌🏻👍🏻💗👏🏻

Her many friends she’s accumulated as part of the Suicide Prevention organization and also her friends that live around town.  She’ll do fine in the support department.  Sometimes too, husbands are not the best of moral support, the kind she might have needed at this particular time in her life. 😉

That was probably one of my favorite parts of the interview, tbh.  Because finally we’re getting into the important stuff, the nitty-gritty as far as how mother and son interacted together when she was pushing him for not pulling his weight more.  And it also shows how Dylan was basically saying essentially ‘I can’t take much more, don’t push it because I don’t know what I’ll do’ even though she didn’t even know entirely what he meant exactly by that.  It’s also speaks volumes the way he bought her a gift  to make up for it.  Dylan never wanted to disappoint anyone and he felt like crap after she remarked that he completely forgot what she considered an important day to be honored.

And I loved that he selected an african violet plant for her  How interesting is his gift selection?   I love little tidbits like this.  The little gems in an interview is for me the highlights. ❤

I think it’s one massive layer of many small layers of things that have happened to them over the years and so they just decided it was time to go their separate ways amicably. They had their of share marital struggles back in the nineties too before the shooting occurred.

And absolutely correct too!  🙂 

I finished it about 30 minutes ago and I’m reflecting on it now. 

I think the interview was ok..for her first one.  But as I’ve said, I’ve never been a big fan of Diane Sawyer’s questioning style.  Plus 20/20 is a show that likes to follow a format of telling the story juxtaposition with the interview going on. The story that 20/20 told was usual tripe about violent video games and their two experts being absolutely certain that Eric was the born psycho influencing Dylan to do what he did.  If this had been Oprah’s interview, there’d be more time spent on a candid one-on-one interview with Sue and less time for slick, ‘expert’ psychological profilers interjecting and persuading us on how they’ve diagnosed the boys post mortem or that violent video games share a responsibility in programming our children (that’s an old, tired excuse that’s never been fully proven.).  

I think that now that she’s finally dove in and conducted her first public interview, I’d like to see her being open to potentially other interviews in the future that could do a better job of really getting into a discussion.  Sawyer jumped around so much that it felt choppy and edited.  Just when Sue was discussing something interesting – like the fight in the kitchen which concluded with him forgetting Mother’s Day, Sawyer suddenly goes in another direction asking a completely different question,  instead of staying on that path that was relevant to their dynamics or how obstinate and difficult it was to get him to do things. In my opinion, Oprah does a much better job at this.  Diane Sawyer is slick and polished but she doesn’t go deep, unfortunately.

I’m happy that Sue survived her first major public interview and she articulated well half on the verge of tears often times.  Sometimes Sawyers was confrontational and judgy in her questions thrown at Sue but Sue reflected and answered honest and transparently.   Courageous woman to be admired for all she’s been through, including breast cancer 2 years after Columbine and now with this – what appears to be – a fairly recent divorce.  That saddened me greatly that after all they’d been through together and now with the two heading into their seventies, they’ve thrown in the towel.  The two were still together in ‘11-12 when Andrew Solomon interviewed them.  It’s possible the fact that Sue decided to write and publish her story and come forth with a public interview was what caused the two to go their separate ways. But I do know they had marital difficulties, as many long time married couples do – and perhaps it was just for the best at this point in their lives. 

I am loving and appreciating all the new Dyl photos and am very grateful for them. ❤  ..and maybe there’ll be new ones in the book too! *crosses fingers* Then there’s the RNN video clip – now restored with it’s original audio!   *sigh*   There is something about his demeanor in the video that shows an entirely different layer to his personality. Yeah, of course, he was a bit timid and self conscious the way he said his name at first but he was also sort of being a bit ‘on’ for the camera and pretending along answering the questions yet sort of laughing at how ridiculous the questions were at the same time. Of course, he was saying the pat answers expected of such questions. And did you get a load of that incredulous eye brow raise of his while listening to the question? lol  But for someone socially awkward with an interviewer on camera, he handled it rather well and was engaging, for him and made very strong eye contact with the guy. His voice sounded unusual for him too, like he was playing up his speech for the interview.  Dyl also looked a healthy weight, seemed vibrant and energetic, and..there’s an innocent quality about him too. He was just on the brink of disaster that day. The irony being that it was that evening Jan 30, ‘98 that he and Eric got arrested for the van theft and from there on out, his year devolved into a slow downward spiral.  Very sad to think of that while watching the interview.  If fate had somehow been different that evening, he might not have been on a crash course with Columbine.

I’m sure there’s much more I could mull over out loud but I think I’d like to rewatch and reflect a bit more on all of it.  What a day, eh?   Incredible the deluge of new stuff we’ve gotten. It’s a jackpot. 🙂 

And here we go………………………. !!!

true-af-crime:

everlasting-contrast:

Please put interview spoilers under a cut. Some of us here are West Coast. Ahem.

That is all. Thank you.  🙂 

WATCH THE STREAM!!!

Prefer to watch it on hdtv myself but thanks for pointing me (and others lol)  to it. 🙂  Good to know there’s a stream going for those who can’t watch it on tv.