In the Eric In Columbine video a guy (I’m not sure what is name is), says “Eric just got jacked, Eric just got jacked up the ass” and then Eric says “I don’t know about that.” What was that about? Why did he say that? And what does it even mean (sorry for my obliviousness(?)) I’m from Spain and we don’t use that phrase here

Around the 10:50 mark, Eric is poked fun at by Mike Vendegnia when Brandi didn’t meet him in the cafeteria but instead, walked out of the room without noticing or acknowledging him.  Basically meaning that the chick flaked on Eric’s invite to hang with him in the commons and she blatantly snubbed him.  I wouldn’t say Mike is being nasty here. He’s just doing that dude thing where he’s ribbing a friend. At one point he says “you want me to get her for you, Eric?”  

Assjacked

Being screwed over or taken advantage of.

“You either get jacked, or you’ve jacked someone else!”

“Promised a promotion at work, instead I got assjacked and they gave it to someone else!

“Eric just got jacked up the ass”

HI! Do you know any information about the fact that eric didn’t want to die and wanted to steal the plane and go somewhere ?

Eric was typing up oodles of fantasy scenarios with the various and sundry ways NBK could play out.  It was all just ridiculous, over-the-top half-baked ideas strung together in one long-ass paragraph with no actual concrete planning behind any of it.  I’m sure it was cathartic for him to come up with all these James Bondesque “super villain’ scenarios but even he highly doubted any of it being doable or realistic in scope as he starts off by saying: ‘if by some weird ass shit luck my (me) and V survive and escape..’   So, no, I don’t think we can make a case for Eric wanting to live.  The fact is that Eric always knew NBK could only end in his own death either by the cops hand or his own hand.  He did want to die because he was committed to seeing his mission through and dying for it having the upper hand rather than risk being apprehended and having the tables turned on him.

The endurance you have for running this blog for so long is admirable. I was here in your beginnings and back then there was a lot of blogs that dont exist now because everyone either grew out of their columbine case interest, or moved on. Thank you for still hanging around. You are well researched in the case. I have a lot of love and respect for you xoxo

Endurance or devotion or a little of both..I’m not sure which it is, lol Thanks ❤️

Are there any new books being written on Columbine or new releases?

The only new Columbine book supposedly in the works is by Brook’s Brown father, Randy. It is projected to be released sometime next year. If it’s actually true, that should be one hell of a meaty, controversial book especially in regards to Jeffco shenanigans. 😉 It should also help to overturn a lot of the propaganda that Cullen has beaten into the public’s consciousness over the last eight years (aka ‘they just did it because they could; bullying wasn’t the reason’) with his so-called “definitive” book.

corruptedlittlegem:

The more I sit and think, the more I realize just how conflicted Dylan must have felt in those last few days. Yes, he was suicidal there is no doubt, but I’ve often seen the question ‘Well why didn’t he just kill himself and be done with it instead of killing all those people?’ And of course, Anger is your first response, but delving deeper, it was also fear, and a bit of a morbid acceptance.
You see, I don’t think Dylan had the courage( I wish I had a better word because courage sounds so terrible) to kill himself. Talking, wishing and thinking are entirely different things than the actual action. I whole heartedly believe, as someone who often has suicidal thoughts and urges and has for going on 8+ years, that he wouldn’t have done it. He would’ve written about it 1000 times, whined about it, cried, but I think there always would’ve been something in the back of his mind urging him to keep going despite it all, that it’d get better eventually. I think he went about NBK, yes because he was angry, but also because he knew he needed to be backed into a corner so that there was no other option than suicide. So yeah, he went in guns ablazin, having the ‘time of his life’ because I believe he realized once that first shot was fired, there was no going back. That day Columbine was a tunnel and there was only 1 way to go, forward. The first step he took into that school on April 20th, the door slammed shut behind him, leaving behind his future and anything else he mightve been. When that door slammed shut, he made Columbine his cage and there was only 1 way out…

Very nicely put.^^

Hi there, I’m currently reading Sue’s book, but I’m confused about what kind of educational system Dylan was undergoing. Could you help me please? ^^’

theres-no-life-in-the-void:

x-sunshineboy-x:

everlasting-contrast:

The the American educational system ? I’m not sure exactly what you mean but hopefully this link addresses what you’re asking precisely.

(Lol why was this anonymously? Whatever.)
There are three different systems in the US.
And what I mean is, that according to Brooks and Sue, Dylan went to elementary school until 6th grade. After that in the fall of 1993 he went to junior high/middle school for two years, with Brooks and Eric (?). And in the fall of 1995 he finally went to Columbine High.
In conclusion this means:
6 yrs – elementary
2 yrs – middle/ junior high
4 yrs – columbine high
And if you now look at the educational system, this doesn’t fit in any of the three systems.
So did I understood something wrong? Or did the system changed somehow?
But anyways thanks for your answer ^^

Maybe anon wanted to know about the gifted program? It doesn’t exist in some countries (like mine), so it can be a bit confusing

Anons questions was kind of a broad and not-very-specific as to what they were confused about so, thanks to @x-sunshineboy-x for giving a ‘snapshot’ of how the education system works here in the US. As you described, this would be the one Dylan followed along in.  Had he gone to a Junior High School instead of a Middle School, he would’ve attended Junior HS from Grade 6 – 8 rather than with Middle School which is only Grade 7 – 8. 

 @theres-no-life-in-the-void​, I didn’t realize that other countries might not offer a similar equivalent to a ‘gifted program’.  Thanks for pointing this out. 🙂 

Here are the specifics:

As I’m not a resident of Colorado, it took me a couple of years to find out what CHIPS was. I knew from my research that Dylan Klebold was involved in this program but that’s about it. More research and a little help from a student who went to Columbine finally shed light on the mystery. I’d received an email from the student about another matter and thought it couldn’t hurt to ask. Here’s what he told me:  


It stands for “Challenging High Intellectual Potential Students”. I think it’s primarily for late grade school and middle school ages. One of my best friends, [name removed*] sat next to him [Dylan] in that class. He had the same description for him [Dylan] as most I’ve heard, “real nice guy, a little bit dorky”. There’s very little information on the web about the program. I suspect that after the press it received from the Columbine incident they either discontinued it or changed it’s name.

Knowing [name of student’s friend removed*], I’d say you have to be pretty gifted to get into the program. He was a child prodigy when he was 14 when I met him, and probably younger. I’m not sure what the requirements were exactly to get in, but it’s a safe bet that Dylan was extremely intelligent.

..I got transferred to an experimental program for gifted and talented students. Of course diagnosing who’s really creative and who’s just an ADD psycho at that age is impossible, so my class had a little of both. It was called CHIPS (for Challenging High Intellectual Potential Students). And it was great. If you wanted to go to the bathroom, you didn’t have to raise your hand, you just went. If you got all your work done by Thursday, you could whatever you wanted all day on Friday (legally we still had to come to school – or at least arrange our own field trips). We could go as fast and as far we wanted. I had licked Algebra and Trig by the time I finished 6th grade. Teachers didn’t make the rules as much as they were agreed on in open committees. It was crazy. The only real drawback – it only lasted thru 6th grade (Elementary School).**

I wonder what the transition for Dylan was like, from the CHIPS program into regular junior high. It must’ve been real hard. The fellow who wrote the above went on to say:

Suddenly I was in junior high. Having to pretend to be re-learning all this crap. Knowing none of these people who all grew up together. Bored. Scared. I pissed my pants a couple of times in seventh grade, simply because I was too embarrassed to ask for a hall pass. Didn’t exactly gain a great reputation.**

This fellow never knew Dylan but from what Brooks Brown described in his book No Easy Answers: The Truth Behind Death at Columbine about the program, Dylan’s experiences weren’t all that different from what is described above. The major difference is that the fellow from the story above is alive today and making music based on his experiences, and having a good time to judge from the rest of his bio. Dylan.. is dead.

Brooks Brown, like Dylan, was smart enough to qualify for the program; they attended it together. He says in his book that CHIPS was made up of two types of students: The ones who genuinely earned a place there due to their test scores and those who managed to get a spot thanks to the fact that their parents knew people who could pull strings. According to Brooks, Dylan almost lost his spot in the program because the people making the choices had decided that there weren’t enough girls who passed the test. The Klebolds protested and Dylan’s spot was secured.

CHIPS was supposed to be a place where smart students could excel; where they could take advantage of their intellectual prowess to get a leg up on life. Instead it was a shark tank where students were locked in a state of one-upsmanship that included sabotage of other students’ projects. It was an environment where teachers looked the other way when students picked on each other.

The program was housed at Governor’s Ranch Elementary, where non-accelerated classes took place as well. Students in the CHIPS program found it difficult to mesh with other kids there as the other students regarded them as a group of intellectual snobs. I’ve seen this same ‘fishbowl’ effect in the accelerated program at the school my kids attend. Kids who aren’t in the accelerated program envy and despise the ones that are for being singled out as “special”. I’ve seen kids quit the program because they got tired of being isolated in the ‘fishbowl’. My oldest was in the program for years and, on graduating to high school, politely refused to move on to the next accelerated program for the very same reason, despite being amply qualified.

For Brooks, the hateful environment in CHIPS soured him on school in general. He quit the program – the only student in his class who did – and attended John L. Shaffer Elementary instead, a school recommended to his parents by Dylan’s parents because their oldest son Byron attended it and they were all quite happy with it. Brooks was glad to get out of the CHIPS environment but his enthusiasm for school never rebounded. Dylan stayed with the program – Brooks theorized Dylan knew it meant a lot to his parents that he was in the program and so he didn’t want to let them down by dropping out… even at the expense of his own personal happiness. Dylan was miserable in CHIPS but he stuck it out for the sake of making his parents proud.

Well, there’s still very little about the program on the web but they haven’t discontinued or changed the name of the program.  [Source]

The present-day name of the program is: 

Gifted & Talented (“G & T”)

We support, develop, and implement policies and practices that encourage 21st century skills and respond to the diverse gifts and talents in learners from all cultures, racial and ethnic backgrounds, and socioeconomic groups. Jeffco Schools’ Educational Research and Design Gifted and Talented team supports and engages in research and professional development, community outreach, advocacy, communication, and collaboration with all stakeholders to improve the quality of education for all learners. By nurturing potential through challenging, meaningful and respectful learning experiences, we support creative producers, responsible problem solvers and autonomous learners in a global community.

WHAT IS A GIFTED STUDENT?

“Gifted and talented children” means those persons between the ages of four and 21 whose abilities, talents, and potential for accomplishment are so exceptional or developmentally advanced that they require special provisions to meet their educational needs. Gifted and talented students are capable of high performance, exceptional production, or exceptional learning behavior by virtue of any or a combination of these areas:

  • General or specific intellectual abilities
  • Specific academic aptitude
  • Creative or productive thinking
  • Leadership and human relations ability
  • Visual arts, performing arts, spatial or musical abilities
  • Psychomotor abilities

Presently, the Gifted program is offered at: Governor’s Ranch Middle School,  Westridge Elementary in Littleton on through Middle School  years at Ken Caryl Middle School. Here is a list of all GT Center schools in the surrounding Denver area. 

Very Large Gifted & Talented Program

12% of all students at Governor’s Ranch Elementary School are enrolled in the Gifted & Talented (G&T) Program, which is much larger than the median across all reported elementary schools in Colorado (3%).This school’s G&T program is much larger than the median across all reported elementary schools in the US (5%).

Parents must fill out an application form to demonstrate that their child qualifies to be enrolled in this specialized program.  Using this handout as a guideline for characteristics and details regarding the 15 Traits that defines a Gifted child in conjunction to how some/most/all of the traits are applicable to their individual child enrolling in the program. 

They now even have an Early Access’ program to meet the needs of highly advanced children who have not yet entered kindergarten or first grade, Jeffco Public Schools may grant early entrance to school.This process is not for typical children who miss the October 1 Kindergarten entrance date.

I hope that fleshes out a bit more how the Colorado’s gifted program worked as Dylan attended in the Nineties.  As with any state in the US, these types of ‘Advanced Programs’ run differently.  It would also seem as though Colorado has put more effort in recent years to make this program more extensive rather than just covering Elementary school years. 

To recap, Dylan attended:
Grade 1 – 2 – Normandy Elementary School  

 Grade 3 – 6 – Governor’s Ranch Elementary School (transferred to this school /entering the CHIPS program as a gifted student) 
Grade 7 – 8 – Ken Caryl Middle School 
Grade 9 – 12 – C  olumbine High School

Idk if you got this question before but since there are super good hackers on the deep web, how come none of them tried or was able to get the basement tapes?

People have tried and I’m sure plenty of hackers. But honestly, we would’ve had something by now if the tapes were actually on the Deep Web. It seems just a bit ridiculously naive for people to believe in this myth that the legendary Holy Grail tapes are somehow just floating around somewhere on it. For nearly twenty years, Jeffco has gone through great lengths to bar them from the public so they would not see the light of day. They even made a point to make an official, public statement that the tapes were destroyed to dowse any hopes of release. How amateurs think they could still poke around on the deep web and be The One to fish them out of it’s murky depths is beyond me. Again, if it had any potential to happen, it would’ve happened a long time ago by now.

So, on 3-31-97 dylan was still 15, right? in his journal he complains about the a-hole in gym class, and i thought he was referring to zobjecks bf. i find it a bit hard to believe that at 15 he was being a jerk to girls in gym, i thought that happened later on and that at this time of his short life he was not yet that bitter

Dylan was 15 when he wrote that first journal passage about the a-hole in gym class bugging him .  He was 16 and a Junior when he butt heads with Tara Zobjeck in co-ed gym class. That was a rough year for him and it shows in the various ways he’d begun to act out. 

Where can I find the e copy of Sues book? Thank you in advance! ❤

I’m sorry but I’m not a blog that distributes Sue’s book for free.  I prefer that people that are truly interested in reading it, purchase a copy since your money spent will go to mental health research. A worthy reason to spend on a low cost paperback of the book since it helps Sue to help make a better difference in this world in her son’s name. 🙂 

opinion on people saying Jeffco shut down CVA? I don’t believe it – Jeffco is way too busy with important things including the construction all over the county and assisting Arapahoe with an investigation.I just don’t see them wasting their time on something so silly.Jeffco isn’t even that terrible of a county and they’ve learned a lot. After all they did catch quite a few school shootings before they happened so idk why people blame them for everything that happens involving Columbine or tc. 😒

Yes, neither do I as I mentioned here regarding this popular theory people have regarding CVA’s bomb planting vid.   

CVA wasn’t deleted b/c of the caf. footage. It was because he uploaded Eric’s little… booklet on making deadly weapons. Just my opinion. That is some actual serious shit I can see him getting banned (or worse) for.

When did CVA upload that one?  I don’t recall this particular vid and I’ve seen most of them as I get Youtube notifications.  

Yeah, no, I tend to think that is not the problem since Eric’s bomb making ‘how to’s’ had been legitimately released to the public many years ago.  This would not be like content that Jeffco did not approve releasing publicly.  *shrugs* Just my opinion too.

Le premier pas vers une autre personne a vu la vidéo de présentation du monde la tête , et la météo du grand n’importe quel qu’il est trop belle et là il y avait des problèmes avec le président le temps, que je suis un mec il me manque trop souvent des trucs à dire à quel heure demain matin à tous et bon dimanche.

Another mystery language post complete with WTF Google translation:

The first step towards another person saw the presentation video of the world’s head, and the weather of the big any it is too beautiful and there were problems with the president time, I’m a Guy I miss too often stuff to say at what time tomorrow morning at all and good Sunday.

uuh, yeeeeah….