I’m sorry for asking but what was dylan’s reaction to sixties folk music ? I don’t have the book sorry

This is when Dylan’s parents attended a parent-teacher conference regarding the violent essay he wrote in Creative Writing class months before the massacre (if you don’t know what the essay is and need to catch yourself up, don’t ask. Simply E-C Search “Man in Black” 🙂 )

“We were all roughly the same age, and the three of us mused about what it had been like to be young during the Vietnam War. This prompted Dylan’s teacher to share a story. She’d brought a folk record from the sixties, “Four Strong Winds,” into class. The song featured the hardships faced by migrant farm workers, and it had always made her cry; but her students had laughed when she played it.

Tom and I leaned forward with concern. “Did Dylan laugh too?” She told us he had. I was bitterly disappointed; he often watched classic movies with us, and I would have expected better. Tom and I apologized for the insensitivity of our son and his classmates, and the three of us commiserated over the youth of today, like old-timers sitting on a park bench. We shook hands warmly when we parted.

It was Dylan’s reaction to the song—not the paper—that Tom and I talked about on the way home. I hated that he’d laughed when his teacher shared a piece of art that moved her. Tom could never part with old books, science journals, or car parts, and his piles of junk ordinarily drove me nuts. That night, though, I appreciated his idiosyncrasies as he dug out the old record. We sat in the living room with a cup of tea, and I gave myself over to the song’s melancholy
refrain.

Tom saw an opportunity to teach Dylan a lesson, and to have a bit of fun, too. When he heard Dylan’s car coming up the driveway, he queued up the record. When Dylan came in, we told him about the meetings with his teachers. Tom remembers that we talked about the paper during that discussion and asked him to get it for us; I don’t remember asking for the paper until the following morning. As we talked, Tom hit Play. Eventually, Dylan recognized the song coming up in the background. Knowing he’d been set up, he started to laugh.

“Why are you playing that horrible song?!”

“Why is it horrible?” I asked him. He said he hated the “weird” sound of it. We told him what the song was about. “Just listen to it with an open mind,” Tom requested. Without protest, Dylan listened to the rest of the song. When it was over, he admitted it wasn’t that bad. We told him how hurt his teacher had been, and talked about the importance of respecting the feelings of others. He admitted it had been wrong to laugh.”

I highly recommend that people purchase a copy of Sue’s book. The proceeds of “A Mother’s Reckoning” go to mental health research organizations. The ebook and paperback are as affordable as that next Starbucks frappuccino you purchase. 😉

Did dylan or eric like the beatles?

I’d say that Dylan’s liberal parents were of the generation that would’ve thought the Beatles classic and would’ve listened to them out of nostalgia so Dylan was probably quite familiar but that said, it wouldn’t have been his taste.  ( Let’s not forget his reaction to his parents playing the sixties folk song ‘Four Strong Winds” for him in Sue’s book.  haha)   Most definitely not Eric’s taste at all whatsoever.

Hi, I’ve been thinking about how easy / difficult it was to approach Dylan, you know as a new or old girl who saw him a couple of times and just wanted to talk to him and be nice to him, I saw that some described him as an angry student and others like a nice guy, so … I do not know what to think

Dylan did act out in certain classes that frustrated or bored him – in his French class taught by Kathy Lutz and his Chemistry class with Teresa Miller.  His grades were suffering in both.  He could also get pissed off about the injustices that went on in the school with the jocks.  But “angry student” was not his usual temperament around peers and friendly associations. He was the sort that took a long while to get frustrated and angry and then he blew up.  lol  If you’re asking if his behavior would be unpredictable and mercurial in interactions with girls, that’s a big no. Dylan generally by nature was a quiet, shy violet (not violent lol). Approaching him would be hard not because for setting him off but more like trying to get him to open up and engage with the girl in conversation. 🙂  What you get would be shy grins, blushes, shifting of his feet, dragging his cigarette and running his hand through hair for the gazillionth time.

about dylan’s stomach pains in 97 – how does anyone know that was caused by something psychological and not an actual condition like IBS/IBD? both of those can cause very severe pain

Probably because his mother never stated that he had any other severe stomach pains or IBS/IBD like symptoms since or prior to that night.  It came on suddenly and vanished just as mysteriously.  It was painful enough for Dylan to actually notify his parents that it was bad. Given how Dylan never vocalized anything ever bothering him emotionally or physically, it would’ve been a big deal for him to call attention to the pain enough where his parents decided to take him to the emergency.

“Later that month, he woke up in the middle of the night with terrible stomach pains. We were concerned enough to take him to the emergency room, where they ruled out appendicitis and everything else. Puzzled, the doctors released him, and he appeared to recover completely. I would later learn that unexplained somatic symptoms, particularly abdominal pain, may be a marker for depression.

Then, two days later, at the beginning of October 1997, Tom received a call from the school. Dylan had been suspended. The news was a shock. It was the first time either of our boys had been disciplined at school.”

So Dylan had two trench coats. His leather was so much better than the other crappy cheaply made look duster. Not sure why he didn’t wear the leather one more besides in radio active clothing

Dylan got the full-length leather coat from his parents Christmas of ‘98 which was after Hitmen for Hire and all their other (released) video production had been shot.  Plus, the duster trench was sort of the established TCM look at school.

Dylan Klebold & ‘Burn’

acinnamon-girl:

Burn –> 🎵 “with all yer life fucked up around you” 🎵

(Need a little musical inspiration for the weekend? Let’s consult A Virtual Book of Existences for some more jammin’ tunes :))

Burn was recorded by Nine Inch Nails in 1994 for the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. Dylan referenced the track in a journal entry he made on November 3, 1997, slipping in a line from the song in between reflections on his depression and disconnection from “everything that zombies consider real”. 

The lyrics strongly echo Dylan’s own feelings of isolation and rejection, and, with the benefit of hindsight post-4/20/99, have an element of prophecy with regards to his actions a year and a half later. 

This world rejects me
This world threw me away
This world never gave me a chance
This world’s gonna have to pay

I don’t believe in your institutions
I do what you want me to
I’m like a case of indigestion
And I’ve got a little surprise for you

Something inside of me
Has opened up its eyes
Why did you put it there?
Did you not realize?

This thing inside of me
It screams the loudest sound
Sometimes I think I could
Burn

I don’t care about where you’re standing
Like I’m sheep out on the slay
With all your life fucked up around you
I can take it all away

Something inside of me
Has opened up its eyes
Why did you put it there?
Did you not realize?

This thing inside of me
It screams the loudest sound
Sometimes I think I could
I’m gonna burn this whole world down

(Dylan’s ‘Burn’ journal entry in context)

(( PS For the NIN music video, I selected a live version of Burn that they performed in my own hometown in 2009 🙂 ))

I get more depressed with each day..more evil…. & I can’t even 
stop it ! ! ! !

Do you have a problem with the people who condone?

People that condone have often been through a lot personally. They are at a place in their lives where they are drawn to Columbine and relate to the boys because of their own struggles of feelings of being made to feel powerless and worthless. It is where some of us are at with processing pain, hurt and sadness and working through everything the Columbine represents in a deep, intensely personal level. They are in a present state of concluding that what the boys chose to do was justifiable. Eventually, It is about being at a place where you can let go of feeling like the victim against the rest of humanity and to make the choice to choose love and compassion rather than fear and hatred as the answer and solution in their current existence. Some of us need to declare they condone as a way to garner strength in rejecting and opposing the system and society they feel has caused them suffering. Condoning ‘revenge’ is a heady feeling and it’s empowering to embrace what Eric and Dylan did and to wear it as a badge of honor to say you agree with their destructive actions. It is simply where some are at in their emotional process as a soul and it wouldn’t be my place to reject or judge them for it. If anything, those that condone need support and someone to listen to where their pov is coming from, to stand beside them rather than judge them from above as a ‘non condoner’., and to allow them to express and process their strong emotions that they usually shoulder all alone. We are all at different levels here to learn from one another as damaged people and to support each other in the shared commonalities of struggles and personal pain that have brought us all here together.

Do you think Dylan liked avocados

Gotta love these questions. lol.

Yeah, I think so.  Why?  Because Sue said Dylan was an adventurous eater and was often experimental and open to trying different sorts of food.   I would bet the Klebolds made big salads along with their meals which probably had a sliced avocado in there somewhere along with the heirloom tomatoes and red onion to go along with those “gloppy” Mexican casseroles that Dylan and Byron liked so much.  Nom-maste. Makes me hungry. 😉   

Say if Devon did manage to tell Dylan that night during prom how important she was to him, how do you think he’d react?

I think he’d grin unexpectedly hearing a close friend-that-was-a-girl say this to him (That kind of ‘greeeat, I’m that wonderful friend by way of her boyfriend’.’) But he’s also feel sheepish because he was still going to go through with it, regardless. It was just a little too late and as fate would have it, Devon nor the girl he secretly pined for, confessed to wanting what he truly desired in order to sustain him in this world.