What were eric and dylan’s favorite seasons?

Eric said summer, and I’d say the same for Dylan too since he suffered depression and summer is all about bright and sunny weather.  Seeing that Dylan was attracted to the hot, dry and sunny climate in Arizona it makes the most sense. During summer break, the two could stay out late, goof off with friends, light fireworks on a warm summer’s night, and do whatever the hell they pleased.

I’m frustrated because I’m obviously too stupid to look in the right places because I’ve been trying to find the diversion files where E&D answer questions such as when Eric says him and Dylan are best friends but Dylan says him and Eric are good friends etc etc. I’ve found some of the diversion documents but they’re not what I’m looking for. I’m also looking for the ones thedragonrampant mentioned where they say they know about safe sex or w/e. Do you know where to find the rest of them?

First off, give yourself a break. 🙂There is a lot of Columbine information and it’s not always easy to locate what you’re looking for immediately. Trust me, I’ve been there with the frustration. There are some things I recall reading but if I haven’t book marked or screen capped the info, I’m sometimes sifting through docs tearing my hair out. We’re not stupid it’s just a massive amount of material and not always easy to find stuff.

Dylan’s Diversion File

Eric’s Diversion File

These are my two favorite docs, btw! They are so insightful into their individual personalities.

Peter Langman’s schoolshooters.info is a very good, well-organized resource for most of the major 11k doc

Hi, do you think it would make Eric sad that his parents haven’t publicly defended (I’m not sure if that’s the right word?) him the way Sue does for Dylan? Thanks in advance for your answer.

Yeah.. but at the same time, I think he’d very much feel he deserves every bit of it.  That his family was justified in not vouching for him and that it was as if they erased him away.  He deserves what he got since he was no good to them anyway. What he did proved that. He doesn’t deserve to be remembered by them. He’s not worthy. And you’re welcome. 🙂 

Hi I saw that recent ask about how CHS was in the 90s and I just want to say that my old high school was exactly like that and I only graduated in 2015. They favoured the sports kids and paid more attention to them and even when they broke several school rules, they got a less harsher punishment than others. I fucking hated it. I can understand E and D’s frustration but wouldn’t ever pull a stunt such shooting ppl even tho I get the frustration exploded in them and it was their “only way out”.

Yeah, a lot of people can relate to a similar scenario that E and D went through such as yourself.  It certainly makes it all too easy to understand their frustration and rage doesn’t it?   Columbine is a microcosm snapshot of exactly what is cookie cutter wrong with many large (and often jock laden, sports oriented) high schools. It’s easy to identify with them and to empathize with their situation but the majority of teens would still not choose the path that they did. They took it to the extreme where most just want to drop school or get processed out of their school as quickly as possible with bad grades and PTSD trauma.   I think part of the reason they did what they did was not so much about their desperation and suicidality but that it was important to prove a point by taking back their power. Particularly for Eric more so than Dylan to make a statement loud and clear. This is part of what is still so attractive and alluring about these boys to this day, for so many. What they did speaks volumes to the downtrodden outcasts that feel disempowered.  It’s what they symbolize and represent in having done something so extreme as a wake-up call to their community and the world. And, what they did can never be done again with the same results of cataclysmic reaction and impact it had on the world. All mass shooting after..are just that, ‘just another’. Now, don’t get me wrong. what they did is not by any means heroic, courageous or something to be admired but nevertheless, they were the ones that decided to work together, to plan meticulously and make that big crater dropping statement. It was teenage mutiny on the school system, its’ toxic culture and a statement to society that you cannot expect every downtrodden, rage-filled teenager that has had enough of the bullshit to just compile and be processed through the system. Anomalies happen and instead of swallowing their rage, they externalized it onto others. It failed miserably but the message to those who have suffered as they did still intrinsically understand their radical statement even if they – and you – would never consider taking such a destructive path for others and yourself as a solution to your own victimization in school.  Marginalized, depressed and angry teenagers in a volatile school setting rampant with bullying and harassment are just not viewed quite as harmless today by teachers and adults as they were assumed relatively harmless pre-Columbine.  Unfortunately, there are many schools today with the same horrible conditions as Columbine.  The system is still as bad and broken even if there is a bit more awareness that, yes, shit can happen as it did on 4/20/99, if everyone looks away and no one cares enough.

i never understood why other “cliques” at columbine assumed/said that dylan & eric were in the trenchcoat mafia, when really most, if not all of the original members graduated at that point…i guess not really caring/paying attention and just seeing the trenchcoats made the correlation for most of the kids at the school, lol.

Yeah, no, they all just lumped them all into one category because they saw it as something scary and opposite of what they were: those kids that wear black and act weird are all part of the nefarious, unChristian, homosexual Trenchcoat Mafia.   It’s very typical, simplistic labeling/categorizing type stuff that goes on in high school all the time.  Us vs Them mentality. They don’t see the nuance in that some of these kids, like E and D, weren’t actually considered officially part of the ‘97-’98 TCM group.  The mainstream and popular kids know absolutely zilch about any of those that are different from them. Only that they want to stay far, far away from the outsiders..those “no sport’ degenerates.

Sorry for my anxious rambling but I’ve been trying to sleep and somehow I came to following realisation: Dylans parents are well over 60 years old, as are Erics. It won’t be too long before they die (maybe 10-20 years?) And then the boys’ brothers are left alone with the memories, the guilt, the grieving etc I’ve always been so glad that I’m not the youngest kid because there’s no way I’d be able to get through my family dying😭 (I’m sorry, that’s just my late night teenage angst showing)

That’s okay. No worries about your meandering thoughts and angst. 🙂 While it’s true that Bryon and Kevin will have their fair share of grief and past memories to deal with on their own, each also has their own family now to help distract them from the pain. I’m sure they’ve also confided in their wives numerous times (and have cried) and so they have someone in their life that they love to help them bear the burden of their past with them. They also have their children to focus on and raise into young, successful teenagers on into adulthood. There are more happy times for them in their busy adult lives that makes me think that they will be okay once mom and dad are gone. And this event was nearly 20 years ago now, so some of the grief has been processed and has faded on in their memories. Hopefully one day either or both will want to share their story too. Don’t hold your breathe now! but you never know. Maybe Byron won’t be so inclined to since Sue has taken on representing their family. However, Kevin was close to Eric and out of everyone in their family, he is the only one I could possibly entertain having the courage to speak up after his parents pass on. Then again, in a military family, he may have been sworn to keep everything within the family circle for good.