In Kristen’s interview, she states she “thinks” she was dating Dylan. Isn’t that something you would know for sure? Why would that have been unclear to her?

Well, for one thing, it’s difficult to interpret a lot of eyewitness accounts in the 11K, the way Jeffco poorly recorded much of it. Some of the detectives just did a super poor job of recording things down detailed and with accuracy. Kristen’s account is very much lacking for someone who was considered in with the original Trench coat Mafia members and also for someone that knew the boys and hung out with Dylan more of the two. I find it suspicious how she has about a paragraph of info in that massive doc and it’s sorely lacking. Also, perhaps, Kristen was just kind of talking out loud to the detective and sort of realized in that moment, that she’d gone out with Dylan once and that that it could be considered that she was dating him so to speak. So, maybe she wasn’t quite sure how to view her time spent with Dylan as just casually hanging out together or an actual “date”.

is there a list of all the possible girls that dylan might have called his halcyon girl? (not just marla foust)

You’ll want to check my FAQ for the list of speculated contenders. 😉

However, here is Dylan’s actual list.  

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Here’s all the people I’ve loved, or at least liked (or thought I loved) – all the same meaning.

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uhh…it sure is a pity we can’t read his Halcyon Girl list, huh?  darnit..

One curious heart has a ‘R’ marked within it.  One possibility might be Rachel Scott but the name is near the bottom.  If we can believe Beth Nimmo’s claims, it’s perhaps conceivable that he crushed on Rachel at some point perhaps earlier on at CHS. It seems like his list may be ordered (seems very Dyl to do that with his Virgoan tendencies of categorizing and organization) with his more recent interests up at the top and his older more faded crushes, near the bottom. 

If Dylan dated 1-2 times with Sasha Jacobs, they broke up and then she started going out with Eric … What the hell was that? They were friends and they went out with the same girl … What the hell happened? I’m lost.

Well first of all, Dylan and Sasha were never really together in the first place in order to ‘break up’, they just dated 1-2 times.  In fact, I’m inclined to say that the sort of date they went on was group dating and not a couple date. Why do I say this? Because Sue never mentioned that Dylan went on an actual one-on-one couple date. She mentioned that she and her husband were aware that Dylan had gone on herd-group dating only.  So, Dylan and Sasha were sort of trying one another on for size while in a group..and it wasn’t working for her. In short, they didn’t click.  So, she decided to go out with Eric who was probably just that much more outgoing around her – plus, he was a friend of Chad’s as well.  So, there was no hard feelings between these two friends at all.  Dylan barely knew this girl and his trial dating experience proved to have no chemistry for him.  Though he was internally, secretly upset with how the date went (he had high hopes he’d finally find a girlfriend like Zack had done) , he wasn’t digging Sasha’s personality (thought of her as ‘phony’) so it was no sweat for him that Eric decided to take her out.  Eric and Sasha began to go out regularly together.  It’s like they were ‘seeing one another’ and it never ended up becoming a close dating relationship. Certainly, not enough to call them a couple even though Jeffco refers to Sasha as “ex-girlfriend of Eric Harris”.

Sue Klebold Sighting: YouthVoice 2017 Aug 11-12th

 2017
Eighth Annual NCACC Youth Summit
Aug. 11-12, 2017, Durham County, North Carolina

NCACC General Session with county officials  
August 12nd – 8:45 – 9:45 a.m.

Sue Klebold is the mother of Dylan Klebold, one of the two shooters at Columbine
High School, scene of a tragedy that saddened and galvanized the nation. She has
spent the past 15 years excavating every detail of her family life, and trying to
understand the crucial intersection between mental health problems and violence.
Instead of becoming paralyzed by her grief and remorse, she has become a
passionate and effective agent working tirelessly to advance mental health
awareness and intervention.
In her address, she will share her profound realizations that will leave a lifelong
impression on all who listen.

Agenda

With the support of the NCACC Board of Directors and the presidents who have followed Accor, the NCACC is proud to announce that YouthVoice will return for an eighth year at the 110th Annual Conference, Aug. 10-12 in Durham County.

YouthVoice provides county commissioners with the opportunity to connect with the next generation of leaders. The event brings together Youth Delegates from 4-H Youth Development clubs and Boys and Girls Clubs of North Carolina.

YouthVoice, which takes place on Friday and Saturday of the NCACC’s Annual Conference, offers sessions that help youth gain a better understanding of what county governments do and the role of commissioners as the governing body for counties, and provides multiple opportunities for youth and county officials to connect. Youth and county officials are formally together for Saturday morning’s breakfast and Second General Session, however county officials are invited to participate in other educational components of YouthVoice (advance notification to NCACC staff is required; contact Jason King at 919-715-0045).

County officials will also have the opportunity to meet their county’s Youth Delegate prior to the conference. In order to qualify to attend, Youth Delegates must speak at a Board of County Commissioners meeting prior to YouthVoice and submit a photo of themselves with their Board of Commissioners.

The Association strives to bring a diverse mix of youth representatives age 14-19 from each of North Carolina’s 100 counties to YouthVoice.

The NCACC has partnered with 4-H Youth Development, a service of N.C. Cooperative Extension, to coordinate and bring Youth Delegates to YouthVoice since its inception. The Association welcomed Boys and Girls Clubs of North Carolina as a partner organization in 2012 to bring additional representatives to YouthVoice.

[NCACC website YouthVoice2017]

Registration (apparently closed since June 26th 😦 )

Do you think that if the girl Dyl loved, had declared to him or given any signal, he would have given up the massacre? About the love letter, can you find to read It whole? I wish Very much, I have not read, Just some parts.

If she made know that she returned his feelings, he very likely would have thrown in the towel on the massacre, yes.  But the odds of that happening were very slim. And  deep inside, he knew that himself.  

Here is his entire (suicidal) love letter in a format that 😔should make it easy to read and understand but hard to not feel…  

Quirks: The idiosyncrasies of DBK
Setting Sun” t-shirt      

– Rare Promotional Tee for The Chemical Brother’s Single “Setting Sun” (1996) and is Track 5 on the “Dig Your Own Hole” 1997 album.

It is presumed to be sold at their ‘97 “Dig Your Own Hole Tour” (and that Dylan attended (most probably with Zack) and acquired both the ‘Dig Your Own Hole’ and “Setting Sun” prom t-shirts at the April 29 1997 concert held at the Ogden Theatre in Denver, CO.)  Tour date mentioned here.

Dylan can be seen wearing this shirt during the:

• Frankenstein Roast video – Nov ‘98

• Hitmen for Hire “Intimidation Scene” –  Dec ’98

“You’re the devil in me I brought in from the cold
You said your body was young but your mind was very old
…”

DIg Your Own Hole T-Shirt   

Master Index of ALL of Dylan’s (publicly known)  t-shirts

(btw, it’s interesting that Tumblr put a “NSFW” tag on this post which was in my drafts for ages now. Marked as “sensitive content” to which I’d have to ‘appeal to get it unmarked. Weird. Personally, just between us, I think his hand appreciation posts are much more ‘NSFW’. 😉 )

When did Eric start developing anger issues?

When Eric was continually uprooted and dragged around the country one too many times and he started maturing and beginning to feel discounted and resentful of not wanting to move but also not having any say over the matter. Eric’s anger heavily stems from the sense of lack of being able to exercise any control over his life.  He’s very angry with his parents, particularly his father, though he continually defended them.

By the time the Harris’ moved to Littleton, Eric was adolescent with burgeoning hormones, growing intelligence and rebellious, defiant emotions. His dislike of the community they moved to and his sense of rejection as, yet again, that ‘new kid’ once again, low on the totem pole, was the pivotal setup which caused emotional tensions to mount with no release in sight. 

Do you think Wayne had a perception that Eric couldn’t do anything wrong? In Waynes “journal” he says things like “Brooks is out to get Eric”, “Eric is not at fault” etc. Why do you think this is?

Well, I think he wanted to believe that others were at fault – oh no, certainly not his own flesh-and-blood son as part of his family. Even when Eric had acted out at other times, he would squash that or just try harder to control his son’s behavior so others wouldn’t see it.  Ultimately, Wayne was trying to convince himself out of a motivation to protect his Harris name and it’s image in the community as that upstanding military family and to maintain a unsoiled, spotless reputation. Kevin was a fine son..so Eric had to be fine too. Eric couldn’t be the culprit of a problem because that looked bad on his family. Well, of course, it’s the Brown’s fault because it can never be the Harris’.  Wayne even discounted his own wife in the notes.  He wanted to believe Eric because he wanted to believe any and all problems away.

Do you think that if Eric had backed down for some reason, Dylan would have done the massacre on his own? And do you think that if his parents had known about his depression, and sent him to therapy or whatever he needed, he would have lived (maybe medication)?

No, I don’t feel as though Dylan would have enough motivation and follow-through to undertake the massacre all on his own.  Besides, his commitment to the spectacle of going NBK on “judgment day” and taking out a bunch of people and the school was something he wanted to do with someone. The grand prize would be to die with that person. Doing it all on his own, would not afford him any mutual ‘death day’ celebration – because that’s something you do with a partner in crime. Plus, it’d be a lot more risky to do it on his own and he might’ve gotten jumped by classmates, or worse yet, apprehended by the police without backup.  He may as well just grab the gun in his bedroom and off himself..if he could work up the nerve to by himself.

I think Dylan’s future life would be a bit of a wild card. It is difficult to say whether he’d find the right combination of things in his life to help him pull through so that he could begin to have the will to live all on his own..to find a reason to live for himself and not just because he feels he needs someone in his life in order to feel that life is worth living.  Certainly if he was getting therapy, it would have to be a really good therapist that could really connect with him in a way that would break through to him, to get him to open up and trust and to admit  to someone else he was struggling and needed someone’s help.  Finding a GOOD therapist can be tough and it’s often a process of elimination.  Once in therapy, it would be a huge hurdle to get Dylan to participate and not want to just sit there and blow it off until the hour was up. His tendency towards secretiveness as well as his pride and self reliance was a big part of the problem. If he was put on medication, it would have to be the right kind and right dosage so as not to mess up his chemistry and make his condition worse or just cause other side effects to manifest. Ultimately, prescription medication appeared to be ineffectual for Eric and tended toward just masked his emotions which is just as bad if not worse.

Tweaking medication has it’s own set of issues and it’s a long process to get meds to work right with the individuals body chemistry.  I am not one who believes that prescription medication is the solution to mental illness or a quick fix remedy for depression.  I believe a combination of therapy, of eating better and certainly getting more sleep and keeping active would be more beneficial than muting his emotions on medication. Attending college would prove challenging for some of this criteria.

A good therapist could help him identify and become aware of certain negative mental talk he was doing that he was previously not aware of before which rendered him powerless and sad and so the therapist might provide him some tools to use while in an emotional crisis mode to help get him through the moment.  Based on the those various circumstances, it’s hard to say definitively whether Dylan would’ve survived or not. Dylan could have gone either way though I think he would’ve had a chance with therapeutic help rather than going it on his own in college.