This “I`M DYLAN” drives me crazy, omg)
velvet voice
Have a happy very good Friday from the Sunshyine Boy. 🌞 ✌🏻️
Eric- I hate the world, Dylan- I hate myself. This is so wrong. Eric hated himself too, and hated the world. Dylan hated himself, but also the world too.
Eric hated the world – plot twist big reveal on 4/20: he hated himself too
Dylan hated himself – plot twist big reveal on 4/20: he hated the world too.
What ever happened to mark taylor ?
Last I heard he is supposedly still being institutionalized against his will in a psychiatric hospital, and force-medicated with psychotropic drugs by court order after trying to release a book and a few years of activism against the Big Pharma companies, specifically surrounding the Taylor’s case against Solvay, the manufacturers of the antidepressant, Luvox, which Eric took. [X].
Lots of conspiracy theories perpetuated most especially by Mark’s mother, Donna. Pros/cons discussions regarding validity of any of it. [X]
WHYYY is Dylan’s halcyon girl still hidden? I mean he’s dead… it’s not like there’s any real threat to her now
Not really important but do u think Dylan would have dark hair now like Byron?
Byron had medium-darkish brown hair as a kid and teenager too. He went for the experimental dyed blonde look on the top half of his hair in his Columbine HS senior photo. You can see his natural color at the bottom around his ears.
Whereas Dyl’s hair was more on the light brown/dark blonde side. In the summer sun, his hair would lighten up a bit more to a blonder look. If Dylan lived to the same age as his bro is now at age 37, he too would’ve also had the receding hairline with a large forehead thing going on. I think his hair would’ve probably settled looking maybe a little more on the brown side, with wisps of lightish blonde and salt/pepper mixed in at the top.
What about the Brooks video? ;) …(sorry for asking, lol)
“Sorry for asking” lol. cute. That’ll never be posted here. Sorry not sorry. 😏
937anon source: 99.9% sure this is Byron. Caught it on Diners Drive-Ins and Dives. Restaurant is called “bang” in Denver’s Highland District 💁🏻💁🏻💁🏻
The Brooks Files!
As promised…this is the infamous, sleazy chat files that took place between Brooks and a girl that went by the name ‘Alice’ and ‘Chloe’. She was into the aesthetic of looking like a human doll. Apparently, she also trolled the Columbiner communities online and contacted Brooks on FB. Brooks seemed to take a liking to her doll-like looking FB photo so decided to continue giving her the time of day chatting with her. Their conversations quickly devolved into sex chats. There first convo took place October 7, 2012 on Facebook progressing to AIM October 23 through November possibly Decemeber-ish 2012 in which Brooks used his ancient AOL username ‘littletonpunkguy’ or hil gty while chatting with ‘Alice’.
Here’s snippets from their convos with highlights:
Brooks and Alice – part 1 Brooks and Alice – part 2
For the entire chat transcript files between BB & Alice: [X]
Warning! read at your own risk for kinky sex content. What has been seen cannot be unseen. 😉I thought they went to BK not McDs. Also, back then BK didn’t have nuggets they had chicken tenders. Is that irrelevant? I might be too skeptical to believe this is real. If true, at least now we know *which* MM poster Dylan had.
Dylan, Dustin Gorton and Eric Jackson filmed the Breakfast Run video the morning of 4/19 and made a trip to Burger King. In the afternoon, Eric and Dylan met up with Brooks and Becca Heins for their last lunch together ever at McDonalds. The distinction between ‘chicken nuggets’ and ‘chicken tenders’ are kind of interchangeable for most people I’d say. I didn’t even know that distinction you mentioned. I think for most people, it’s like some people calling facial tissue ‘Kleenex" versus “Tissue”.
Also, I was there when this whole sordid thing went down. Not only was there these long, detailed transcripts that turned up but I also had the misfortunate to see and hear the voice in those videos. The shirt is the type of shirt he wears. The voice is pretty..unmistakable. It did sound like Brooks. Of course, people are free to doubt it, be skeptical or deny it because who the hell wants to think this about Brooks the Columbine survivor that actually stood up for the Dylan and Eric in his book “No Easy Answers” in relation to the bullying going on at the school? It crushes the image we want to hold about him in our minds. But the fact of the matter is, Brooks is not a perfect person or some hero with no foibles. Columbine was such a traumatic event for him, as much as it was for many of his peers. Only for him, he was caught in the middle between reconciling the fact that his two friends who he ate lunch with just the day before had a hand in mowing down some of his other friends. As a result of that fact, he’s twisted and warped: he’s a bit of an egotistical ambivert that’s always craving for attention and so his self destructive behavior also manifests this way too.
Those kids are laughing at me.
“There was one more odd incident on our way home, which at the time Tom and I chalked up to Dylan’s desire to get back to his friends. The three of us stopped at a packed McDonald’s in Pueblo for a quick bite. A large group of teenagers had taken over a couple of tables against the wall. We’d just unwrapped our sandwiches when Dylan leaned forward, hardly moving his lips, and said urgently, “We have to go. Those kids are laughing at me.” I looked over. The teenagers were hooting and hollering and having a great time, and none of them was paying the slightest bit of attention to us.
“Relax, Dyl. Nobody’s looking at you,” I said. Besides, if a person didn’t want to be noticed, why wear a floor-length leather coat? But Dylan grew more insistent, casting quick, paranoid glances over his shoulder at the oblivious kids. He was so uncomfortable that we bolted our burgers and hustled out of there; the teenagers didn’t even look up at us as we left. The rest of the ride home was uneventful.”
Hypervigilance – a symptom of bullying and/or trauma related PTSD Vs. Mental Illiness related Paranoia
What is PTSD Hypervigilance?
One of the many hyper-arousal symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is hyper vigilance and this refers to the experience of being constantly tense and ‘on guard’- your brain is on high alert in order to be certain danger is not near.
This state of increased awareness, anxiety, and sensitivity to the environmental around you often manifests as a need to always scan your surroundings for potential threats. With the brain resources on constant alert, the results can be inappropriate or even aggressive reactions in everyday situations.
People displaying hypervigilance can be so involved in their scrutiny of whats around them, that they tend to ignore their family and friends. Often, they will overreact to loud sounds and bangs, unexpected noises, smells, etc. They can get really agitated and irritated, when they move into a crowded or noisy area as there is too much to scrutinise.
Even familiar surroundings and people can be an issue as hyper vigilance can make people acutely aware of subtle details normally ignored – body language, a persons voice and tone, their mood, their expressions – all things which are continually assessed.
Some of the common behaviours of hypervigilance are:
- Lack of objectivity – reading too much into situations
- An over awareness of what people see or think about us
- Looking for others to betray constantly
- Constantly concerned about others
- Not being aware of what is obvious to others
- Over scrutiny/analysing behaviour of situations
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kind of mean that she basically said her son was dirty
*sigh* Messy does not equate dirty necessarily, people. Jeez.
“Dylan’s high school grades had never been particularly great, despite his intelligence, but they slipped far enough in the last few weeks of his senior year for two teachers to express concern. His hair was clean, but long and untrimmed, and it stuck out from the backwards baseball cap he always wore, and his facial hair was patchy and grizzled. Everyone in his life, including Tom and me, attached a value judgment to what we observed, instead of wondering if there might be something wrong. This is one of the paradoxes.”
What does dylans mom mean by when she said Dylan was unkempt in the photo hugging the cactus
Not clean cut and well groomed but..
un·kemptˌənˈkem(p)t/
adjective
- (especially of a person) having an untidy or disheveled appearance.“they were unwashed and unkempt"synonyms:untidy, messy, scruffy, straggly, disordered, disheveled, disarranged,rumpled, windblown, ungroomed, bedraggled, in a mess, mussed, messed up; tousled, uncombed"unkempt hair”
what did she say about tom calling her friends the adams family
“Tom had found my immersion in the suicide prevention and loss community depressing, and he felt even more strongly about my murder-suicide research. (He called our panel the Addams Family.) I think he thought I was refusing to move on, and I sometimes wondered if he was right. I amassed a library of books about the adolescent brain, about suicide, murder-suicide, and the biology of violence, seeking out inconvenient truths and uncomfortable realities.” – Sue Klebold “A Mother’s Reckoning”
Hello. You seem to know a lot about Columbine. I’m considering buying Dave Cullen’s book. Have you read it? Is it accurate?
I know a fair bit, yeah. lol If you’re considering buying Cullen’s book, I’d urge you to read my reasoning as to why you shouldn’t bother with it. At the very least, do not purchase it and read a loaner or a free pdf online if you’re absolutely curious. In short, ‘Columbine’ has quite a few inaccuracies. The author rewrites factual history and basically misinforms the public according to his own propaganda-like belief system that he pitches to the public as the ‘definitive source on Columbine’. Many of the people that experienced Columbine first hand do not agree with his ‘myth dispelling’ theories most especially Brooks Brown, a close friend of the two killers. That right there calls bullshit. See my previous post on the topic here.
Do you think Eric and Dylan realized that they would have young women lusting after them after their deaths? Or ever thought of the possibility?
I’d say that’s a big nope. They hoped for ‘followers’ as in dispossessed, disenfranchised dudes like themselves following in their footsteps making war on society. They had absolutely no foresight whatsoever just how ironic it was going to get and that throngs of girls were going to thirst for the two of them like catnip even though they had absolutely zip, zero, zilch luck with babes while alive in this life. They hated their own looks and both truly thought of themselves as worthless losers and rejects.
The ratio of obsessed, enamoured chick followers seems dauntingly enormous compared to the sort of dude followers they hoped to get.
Biggest plot twist ever. 😉
What was the reason for brooks not watching the basement tapes? Did he just not want to ?
Only select adults of the victims and perpetrators families were invited to see the tapes. Brooks was a kid and no kids were given any sort of option to see the tapes let alone refuse in the first place. Brooks’ parents got to see the tapes but they pushed very hard to be given permission to watch them and that’s probably due to the fact that they had trouble with Eric and the police had dropped the ball on following through on their multiple complaints plus their connection with the Klebold’s through their son’s childhood friendship with Dylan.
Has sue mentioned anything regarding dylans ear piercing?
No she hasn’t…yet, that is.. 😉
Have you seen the people who are trying to message Brooks? Laughing about how he found their username REB🔫insulting and how he compared it to someone messaging a 9/11 survivor with the name Osama😝✈️. Why can’t people just leave him alone?
While I’m not a fan of Brooks for reasons I’ve stated prior on E-C (don’t ask me; you’ll have to google for it using keywords of my blog title plus his name) , I find this sort of harassing behavior juvenile and rude. Though I know Brooks often acts like he loathes revisiting the topic of Columbine he often gravitates back to it out of a need to draw attention to his big ego. Even in consideration of that dysfunctional quirk about him, I would still agree with his 9/11 analogy that it has the potential to be traumatic to Columbine survivors in general being pestered in this manner,
if not so much himself necessarily. I would really like for these Columbiners that get their jollies this way to leave Brooks alone and conversely, I would like for Brooks to leave the entire lot of us alone if he really means that he wants to not ‘go there’ with the topic of Columbine anymore and to stick to that with conviction.
(via Sue Klebold: Hatred From The Community Is As Traumatizing As The Grief)
KLEBOLD: One of the things that is sort of associated with murder-suicide survivors is this sort of layered trauma. You have loss of a loved one due to suicide, but you also have media attention, scrutiny and blame, and that media attention and that hatred from the community is almost as traumatizing as the grief and the loss and the suffering and the anguished for the people who had died and for your own child. So it was very layered and very difficult and these things still continue to this day. There was a lot of reporting in the early days that portrayed us as negligent, evil, incompetent, whatever adjectives you want to drudge up and it imprinted on people, and even when those things were found to be untrue later, people still continued to believe that.
KLEBOLD: What I would like to say is that over the years I have met quite a few other families or parents of individuals who have done heinous things. People who have been involved in school shootings, or maybe they’re incarcerated, maybe they have died in suicides that have been particularly tragic where other people’s lives were taken. And the way that I view all of us, who are in that terrible boat is that most of us don’t want to talk about it, we don’t want to be reminded of it, we loathe what our family members did. We are humiliated. We feel like a fool for not knowing this for not stopping this for not knowing what the world expected us to know. And most people are not like me, I am one who is willing to talk about this, but I think the rest of these individuals I talk with want their privacy to be respected and don’t want to dwell on this and be abused the way they are.
The Everlasting Contrast 