I know guns are the norm in America, but didn’t Robyn Anderson have any suspicion when helping them to buy so many guns?

Gun owners are more prevalent and ordinary in some states of the US. I don’t know about Colorado as a whole, but in Littleton, people owning and collecting guns as hobbies or for hunting sport was as normal as a Christian church or a Starbucks on every corner of their suburban landscape.  Robyn knew plenty of parents of friends that were gun enthusiasts and probably gifted their sons guns for their birthday or whatnot. She already knew Eric was interested in guns and that that boys were into first person shooter games like Doom or that Dylan’s parents had a bb gun which they both mucked around with.  She claims that she honestly thought it was the type of thing the two were just naturally fascinated by and gravitated to and so escalating that interest to actually saving up for and purchasing/owning guns themselves seemed an ordinary ‘next step’ thing to do within their community as a pastime sport for dudes.  She was a trusting friend and perhaps gullible in that unconditional trust. She liked hanging out with them especially Dylan, who was her good friend. She probably felt that because Dylan would do anything that she’d ask of him, why not do them a favor too?  She wasn’t expecting him to ever be her boyfriend but she was sweet on him and her soft spot in being a very good, kindhearted friend and being open to doing them favors and taking care of their hobby needs cost her excruciatingly dearly in the end. 

Sorry, what/where is the “American Dream” video? I have difficulty finding certain videos because all the links I click direct to other pages and deleted videos.

Dylan’s last video filmed for video production class, he titled it ‘American Dream’ – but to us, it’s known as the Breakfast Run video where he is riding in the car with Dustin Gorton and Eric Jackson to Burger King for breakfast and Eric is filming it for his class project.

I wish you’re fact was finished so I didn’t have to irritate you with questions you’ve already answered.

Fear not, it’s sloowly coming along.. 🙂 Just an update here: I’ve spent a fair amount of time building an extensive foundation with various categories/subcategories. I’m at the point where Q & A is being added.   If anyone would like to help and request certain Asks that you recall have been rehashed an irritating gazillion times which you think ought to be shelved for the E-C FAQ, feel free to shoot me some mail (not instant message please). Thankss.  I’m hoping to have the FAQ launched by around mid January when it’s well populated and therefore, the most useful and handy. 🙂 

Who says “yummy yummy” in the american dream video? I think its dylan but im unsure.

It was Eric Jackson, sitting in the backseat of the car, filming, who said “yummy yummy” in response to Dyl’s mockery “yeah..a little ketchup with my cinnaminis..” (cos, ya know, that’s what people typically ask to have with their miniature cinnamon buns – not.)

See the video I did of this here   You may have to turn CC (Closed Captioning) to on as I did subtitles for Dylan’s lines.  The subtitles really help to distinguish Dylan’s subdued soft, slurry voice especially when he volunteers that he is not gettin’ anythin’..his last ordinary morning before the massacre on 4/19. 

I find it odd that Dylan didn’t burn/destroy his journal before the massacre. Seeing as how he wiped his hard drive. He didn’t have the same intentions as Eric, and he knew it would be read by various people (even if it wasn’t released to the public).

It is an oddity, yes.  One of those enigmatic things about him. Dylan left his journal behind knowing that, atleast, someone would see it but did he know and understand full well that not only would various people  see it such as his parents and the authorities – but also, the entire world?  I tend to think not to that extent.  I spoke about this before here.

rainflesh:

This was posted by that wtfcolumbiners blog on one of my drawings:

some nice happy doodles of everyone’s favorite mass murderers, because killing people is just adorable

Which is hilariously inane and simple minded considering the content of the drawing itself as nothing at all to do with the Columbine Massacre, let alone the killing of people. I’m not even going to bother feeding the trolls, but I just wanted to kind of clarify one personal thing about myself and my blog, for anyone that might be following me. I’m a bit new here so I’m not sure if I’m in the minority or the majority, but I don’t agree at all with what Eric and Dylan did on April 20th, 1999. Not once have I ever been support of their actions. Not once have I drawn them acting out NBK or dressed in Wrath or Natural Selection shirts. Because I personally don’t agree with what they did. In fact I think everything they did that day, and the days leading up to it, were absolutely deplorable. 

But, regardless of Columbine, I still don’t think it is fair to paint them as one-dimensional killers. These were still people’s kids, friends, family. Spitting words out like mass murderer, killer, bastard, whatever – realistically, yes, one can argue that that’s exactly what they were on April 20th, but can they be defined by those curses for the entirety of their lives? Of course not. To dehumanize them is to pretend as if the lives they had before April 20th were essentially waste. The entire situation is pretty complex, and even so I’m still a noob to this entire community, but what I’ve been able to realize is that they were two intelligent and individualistic young kids who were led astray by a number of factors. Part of the reason why I find Columbine so interesting is the question of why? Why did they do it? What brought them to do it? And generally I’ve found extremely helpful and informative analyses on various blogs on this site. In any case it’s helpful to research Eric and Dylan’s thoughts and journal entries. It’s a constant reminder of how aspects like depression, anger, insecurities, self-loathing, bullying, etc can affect a teenage mind, and how easily said teenagers seem to sweep it under the rug instead of talking about it.

Anyway, I enjoy painting scenes of Eric and Dylan’s lives pre-NBK. And if I’m going to get called out on drawing nice happy doodles of everyone’s favorite mass murderers, then so be it. These kids need to try harder *yawn*

Perfectly sound reasoning to me.^^  You graciously spent far more time than you should with the troll.  Oh well, worth a try.  Please carry on with your awesome art.. We get what you’re doing just fine. 🙂 

rainflesh:

On February 28, 1997, Brooks pulled up alongside a bus stop and Eric threw a chunk of ice at Brooks’ Mercedes, leaving a little crack in the windshield.

Haahaha if I had to choose a favorite quote from Eric Harris, this would have to be it. 

Anyway figured I’d do something a little happier after that last drawing..enjoy!

“Bruh, oh nooes.”
Yep. Dyl must’ve done a lot of those repeat reactions to Rebby. lol

Things I’m thankful for in 2016. 🙂 We’re sooooo blessed having rainflesh illustrate these scenarios for us. 👏🏻🎆❤️

One of the few good Christians had Columbine had to be one of the ones to pass away, unfortunately.

Very true.

Rachel was definitely a more genuine representation of the true and simple spirit of Christianity.    On the other hand, she died to serve her specific purpose, she’d prayed for it, she intuitively knew it was coming, whatever it was to be. She spoke with friends on many occasions of feeling she would not last very long on the earth.  For her, it was an honor for her to serve her Lord willing in whatever form that might take. And she has become known as she believed she would be.. it’s just not exactly the way she conceived her celebrity status to unfold exactly. She’s done great good for the world as a result of that seemingly unwilling sacrifice. The needs of the many outweighing the needs of the one.  It’s unfortunate she was taken so soon but also a world of fortunate too. 🙂 

I have asked everybody about this but nobody seems to know. How did the message on the news at columbine say “Todays going to be a bad day” how did e and d get that up?

Eric Veik as part of the RNN had access to changing the ‘phrase of the day’ broadcast throughout the school’s classroom TVs. Veik was in video production class with E & D and spent a fair amount of time with the boys helping them film their video projects (Hitmen for Hire, Radioactive Clothing, etc.) at their request.  It’s likely that Eric and Dylan also asked him to tweak the phrase for that day.  Though, several student witnesses mentioned they saw the phrase of the day saying different things besides “Today’s going to be a bad day.”  It’s possible the phrase was changed several times that morning based on the information Veik supplied in his 11K account.

Veik stated the phrase of the day from RNN was: “How could you expect us to stay in school on a day like this?” He stated the original phrase was made byJames Davis a senior. The phrase was: “Quit your bitching.” Davis told Veikhe didn’t care if it was inappropriate because he was going to be graduating in 16 days. Veik went ahead and changed the phrase because he felt it was inappropriate.

If many students in the school were Christians, why was there so much bullying. Isn’t a part of being a Christian to “Love thy neighbour?”

Isn’t it common knowledge that many devote, rigidly religious people do not practice what they preach? Instead of kindness and compassion they are nothing but judgmental of others not like themselves. The Christians students at Columbine were tight-knit in their exclusivity club. You are either with them, or if not, against them. “Love thy neighbor’ had/has a clause which is “love them if they are with the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior”. Case in point, how do many religious Christians feel about their fellow Muslim neighbors these days, eh? That was a rhetorical question, no need to answer. 😏

I do not think either of them were trying to be “edgy” in the current sense. They were angry in actuality and hid it mostly, and when it showed I don’t think they were thinking of being “edgy” but was an honest reaction. Which is part of mental illness among other things. The journals are only a part of how we know them to act especially Eric. And they did go through with a massacre. That word is just meant to describe people (usually from the internet) who think they are doing rebellious things

Tbh, it doesn’t make too much of a difference if one is trying to be edgy/rebellious or not making a conscious effort yet end up naturally coming across edgy/rebellious. The distinction between both is a bit blurry because it still comes from the same motivational place. It’s still about making waves, acting out and doing things to get any sort of knee-jerk response, any sort of bad or good reaction and attention from others for doing it. It’s an indirect way of shouting at people ‘hey, hello, look at me!, I’ll matter if I have to shock the shit out of you!“ Unconsciously done or not, essentially it’s all the same, a form of attention getting for something that is lacking in their lives. Being ‘edgy’ is a melodramatic way of existing, being seen and feeling heard in spite and despite of pissing mainstream people off. I do not think all of E and D’s self aware and un-self aware ‘edginess’ is in direct correlation to each’s form of mental illness. A lot of it is simply garden-variety angry, angsty, and very bored teenage boys rebelling, most precocious boys too smart for their own good. 😉

Having Twitter, tumblr, Facebook etc. Is kind of the modern equivalent to having a journal. That is probably the reason why many teenagers in general don’t keep them. Venting online in essence is the same thing, just made public.

Social media blogs are the norm these days but I tend to think that people are a bit contrived when they write two or three sentences and no more than a paragraph on their feels – or, they just reblog endless emo depression-suicidal quotes hoping to get their blatant messages across to the world how precisely unhappy they are feeling. It’s a bit like Eric, you know, where people post or say certain things for their ‘follower’ audience because they know they’ll get some sort of reaction or attention from it. So, I just don’t think it’s the same thing as writing personal stuff down in a journal written solely for oneself. It could be a cathartic form of expression in a locked electronic journal or on pen and paper in a special journal book but the commonality is that it is private and therefore, far more truthful and genuine than any Tumblr, Facebook or Live Journal blog could ever be. Having an audience to your feelings just changes things into something a bit less genuine. I would wager to say that teenagers do still journal in private and not only online just because it is the current, accepted form of personal expression. Some teens still prefer to read actual books rather than off of Kindle or ipad devices. Some still prefer collecting and listening to cds, or even vinyl lately, instead of digital itunes or spotify streaming music. There are plenty of teens out there that like their special journal they hide under their bed until they feel the need to furiously scrawl out something bothering them late into the night. Doesn’t matter if it’s 1999 or 2016, pen and paper journaling is a retro classic. 🙂

I don’t really understand why people are more drawn to Dylan, because they believe he was more innocent and had more humanity. Sure he was genuine, but Eric was just trying to be edgy. He is literally one of those “welcome to my twisted mind,” kind of people.

I think it’s more that people couldn’t comprehend why Dylan did what he did because he never let on that he was harboring deep anger, resentment, pain and sadness. He outwardly did a “Keep calm and carry on” sort of thing and he had a circle of friends and he had no problem maintaining those relationships – whereas Eric burned a lot of bridges with friends so he had very few ‘Semper Fi’ in comparison to Dylan.  Also, Eric painted himself bad-to-the-bone in his journal and whether, in truth, it was a façade or not, it is the final impression that has stuck with this world. Conversely, Dylan’s journal was self loathing with a sense of not belonging here but wishing that he could belong. He also spoke of a deep longing for love; he spent far less time entertaining his anger or hate for people.  By contrast, Eric did a fine job of painting himself the bad guy of the two and so his works have followed him sixteen years on.  So, yeah sure, he looks “twisted and edgy” and repugnant in comparison to Dylan who seemed more silently suffering and sympathetic. Eric did get what he wanted though after all , to be the unrepentant,

unsalvageable with not an ounce of sympathy or compassion to be extended to him for eternity.   Dylan wrote his longing in his journal that he “wanted to be happy and ambitious and free & nice & good” and Eric simply ranted that the world sucked and the everyone on the planet deserved to die (well, except for maybe 5 people ;)).And for that, the majority in this world we live in are not going to even want to spend time reading-between-the-lines to understand the the depth and nuance – that subtext cry for help – encoded within his killer’s manifesto.. They played into his hands but he played into theirs and permanently. Even Eric’s own parents were swayed by society.