How old were Eric and Dylan when they started feeling the way they did? All depressed and angry and so on

ages 15-17 thereabouts,  Sophomore through Junior year was when they really began to ramp up with mental and emotional issues.  They probably were dealing with the first bouts of it earlier on. Dylan was definitely already dealing with depression in Jr. High School and Eric was probably suppressing a lot of anger and not fully acknowledging when he was younger and bit more malleable. Sophomore year was the turning point where emotional issues coupled with their resentment and defiance, began to come to a head.

I reaf once something about a few library survivors saying they heard Dylan asking Eric if he wanted to use knives and Eric saying something like “No way dude i cant” and Dylan replied something like “Me neither i was just checking if you would chicken out too”. But i cant find it anywhere, do you maybe know where its from? Do you think that could be true?

I’ve never heard of such a thing. Kind of sounds like bad fan fiction dialog to me. lol  I don’t recall any such eyewitness accounts in the 11,000 pages relaying a conversation where Dylan and Eric announce that they weren’t up to the task and calling each others bluff. They brought up the idea of possibly using their knives as primarily a psychological scare tactic so it’s highly doubtful they’d then let on to one another, within students earshot, that they were honestly too chicken to kill anyone in that manner. It would kind of negate their ‘psycho’ badassery. 😉


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Dylan, Brooks and Zach thanks their fellow cast and crew members in a tribute video recorded late 98. Here is a little audio and transcript:

Dylan: Damn good job!

Zach: yeah!

Dylan: Brooks, you were ugly as shit. And that’s hard to beat with the way it is.

Zach: hehehe

Brooks: I was uglier than I even am usually.

Dylan : Sorry about that… sorry

Brooks : Tough job, tough job…

You can see the video here.

Dyl calls it as he sees it. Touche! 😉 Oh no, dude, don’t say you’re sorry.. We’re not.

This is the best we’ve got of Dyl and Zack’s camaraderie. The Heckler is heckling. lol

Do you think Dylan would have been part of the hippie revolution in the 60s & 70s?

I really do, yes.  The era fit his ideals, how he felt living life should be like unencumbered and pure, through the bare essentials – love, peace, freedom and bliss – without so many human rules, rigidity and systems and complication that bogs us down and removes us from pure love and happiness.

Love

Revolution

 I can see why Manson and his family held a certain appeal for Dylan with it’s unity through simple living, love, devotion and loyalty. Tune in, turn on and drop out.

Alas, born too late to a simpler time.

 Dylan, the near post twentieth century/dawn millennial free thinking hippie.  Instead, he just became the frustrated iconoclast and nuked his world all around him in search of the love that awaited him in the afterlife  – leaving cataclysmic change in his wake (in true indigo child fashion). 

I have always appreciated Nate Dykeman. He seemed/seems genuinely good-hearted and I’m so thankful the boys had a friend like him. Do you have a favorite E&D friend or associate? Maybe for similar reasons?

A favorite friend or associate, huh?. Somehow this makes me think of them like collectible TCM and Associates ™ action figures or something (trench coat sold separately).  lol    Nate is quite the exuberant character. He’s the kind of dude that yammers on non-stop about anything and everything and is just easy going and likeable period .  He was the perfect extroverted friend to bring Dyl out of his shell. An all around good guy. Mm..I like Zack too with his smarts and sensitivity but unfortunately, we don’t really have any footage of him interacting with Dyl.  Too bad, really, to see how Dyl changed his demeanor hanging around just Zack apart from Eric. So, hm, I pick Kibbz and Devilman to hang with my VoDkA action figure. 😉 

Who wrote ” Death (afraid?) ” in the planner? Andy why on a 13th ?

Dylan wrote that as well as everything on this page of Eric’s day planner. The boys were brainstorming their NBK plans (probably while in class) and used the May ‘99 section of his planner to flesh out prep and planning details.  Dylan randomly used Thursday, May 13th as a place to put a reality check for the two: would they be ready to meet Death? 

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What do you think about Judy brown saying that Eric kind of got mental after learning that Dylan was jewish and that Dylan got scared? You think its true?

In Judy’s personal recollection of that moment on the tapes she describes Eric as asking Dylan incredulously, sort of taken aback, in realizing that, yes, even his own best friend might actually be Jewish. I seem to recall that she said there is just this fleeting moment of apprehension across Dylan’s face as he’s telling him that he is, well, just a bit Jewish. Her interpretation of Dylan’s expression is that he looked, for a second, kind of fearful – as if he’d never considered that Eric might have a problem with it and actually turn on him. It’s the very last thing Dylan would ever want is yet more abandonment from another friend, right? To be dumped by Eric for being a jew. I don’t think she is exaggerating what their exchange might’ve looked like. It’s a little bit hilarious in a warped way, sort of a ‘Dumb and Dumber’ moment. 😉

so it said dylan had an addicting laugh and when he laughed others laughed with him. can you pls give us an audio clip of dylan laughing???

rebsgoddess:

everlasting-contrast:

Personally, I strongly believe that this is Dylan laughing and not Eric…  Others here have (and probably will continue to) dispute it but I maintain that it’s him..  The laugh has a deep tonal quality to the voice plus that undeniable, powerful projection of it (and we know Dylan had the talent for yelling real good). The sound of the voice is loud which goes along with his ‘AHHH GAWWD!” audio clip of his reaction to missing the bike when he drops down on it.  it’s most definitely Dyl all the way. Quite an irresistible, mirthful and hearty no-holding-back kind of laugh and it’s rather infection. Makes me smile at how jovial he is in the moment.. 🙂   

I think that is Dylan as well. I must have just listened to it about 20 times in a row, and I think that matches Dylan’s voice, much more than it matches Eric. Eric’s voice wasn’t that deep. 

Glad to hear you think so too. ^^ Dylan’s voice comes from a lower place in this throat and it’s deeper. Eric’s voice is more midwestern nasally and high pitched. He laughs a little like a chipmunk too. haha. Hmm.. I’ve been considering doing a post to prove this as Dylan. Just need to know the best way to make these types of audio recordings for Tumblr. If anyone has some advice, feel free to message me.

Why would Dylan paint swastikas on his face and be so anti semitic? Doesn’t he realize that if he lived during Hitler’s era he and his mother would be DEAD (by that i mean thrown in a concentration camp and starved or burned in an oven) considering he’s Jewish?

During spirit week at school, it was said by a couple of students that Dylan had walked around with a painted swastika on his chin or cheek. Yes, of course he knew what that symbol represented and that it was a powerfully infamous symbol that people feared or shrank back at the sight of. Why did he do it? He did it to a get a rise out of those conservative and religious classmates at Columbine. Simply worn for the shock value. It was a way to flaunt irreverance with a stark symbol boldly painted on his face and obtain either an instant fear reaction or repulsion from peers. Dylan also did a similar sort of thing when he wore a Soviet Hammer & Sickle pin on his black combat boots. A classmate asked him point blank about it once and Dylan replied: ‘to get a reaction out of people’. Doing this sort of thing, wearing certain mysterious or shocking and offense symbols would’ve been a power trip for both Dylan and Eric. KMFDM was all about ‘Symbols’ at the time too. It likely made them feel as though they garnered just a bit more fear and respect from the mainstream, obedient, non-thinking followers that made up their school in addition to wearing the black trenchcoat and combat boots. It was a way for them to shake things up and rattle the school.

Additionally, Dylan seemed to have disassociated his part jewish ancentry from his awareness. I mean, it’s not like he was just plain ignorant about it all. The dude had gifted intellect and an awareness about things. It’s not like he never thought about it or that it never crossed his mind that, he too, would’ve been persecuted back in Nazi Germany because of his part Jewish ancentry. It’s more like even though his family observed a couple of major jewish holidays in his home along with christian holidays too, he just seemed to have compartmentalized that aspect of his family culture and sort of mentally shrugged off that part of himself. It’s as if Dylan denied it by pretending away his jewish side but in a lazy sort of way. He wasn’t overly anxious about keeping this a secret from people. At some point in Junior year, Dylan eventually noticed that Eric had really latched on to eating up everything german, about the Nazi’s and Hitler, so Dylan jumps on his friends’ bandwagon romanticizing the Nazi ideaology as a way to also feel empowered. Oddly, Eric didn’t know about Dylan’s little ‘don’t ask; don’t tell’ secret and even odder, is that Dylan didn’t even really consciously think to hide his jewish ascentry from Eric who was really digging a idealogy that was extremely against a part of his own family culture.. Maybe, he thought because he didn’t look stereotypically “Jewish” according to the Nazis? Dylan was pretty much what the Nazi’s would decree ‘Aryan’ or Nordic: tall, blonde haired had blue eyes. So perhaps, Dylan felt like his physicallity would help him push away or easily conceal the reality of his mixed heritage. That he’d blend in with christian, non-Jewish culture in the school and that no one would really ever consider that he might be part Jew.

In the Basement Tapes, according to Judy Brown’s viewing of them, Dylan volunteers while their video taping that his uncle will probably be upset because it’ll be around Passover (in ‘99 the first day of Passover was 4/1 and in 2000, the first day of Passover was 4/20), and Eric basically says, to paraphrase: ‘back the fuck up. Wait a minute, What? you’re jewish?’ at him. Dylan basically hems and haws and sheepishly minimizes: ‘well, yeah, ½ or ¼..“ to which Eric is like “that’s too bad, man.” So, strangely, Dylan doesn’t even expend a great deal of energy to even conceal that he’s part Jewish from even Eric. He just starts blabbing about Passover and his Uncle. Insert foot; mouth. It’s more like, he’s only partially Jewish so to him, it’s not really Jewish, muchly? He doesn’t even think a whole lot about it at all and since he’s in denial over it, he doesn’t even consider that he, himself, would’ve been considered a degenerate casualty of Nazi germany. Because he’s not relating any of this personally to himself. He projects the fear factor of the Nazi symbols by painting them on his chin and is pretty much just enjoying the instant gratification of people’s reactions to it in the hallway at school. It appears to be nothing more than the power trip. Shake up the proper christians, the jocks and straight-laced preps and derive pure shock value reactions from flaunting that glaring swastika on his visage. It was politically incorrect and it felt good to him. It’s as simple as that.


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Dylan yelling after missing the bike in the Car Wax Commercial video

“ AHHHHH….GAAAAWWWD !! “  

Dylan packs a punch with those vocal chords.  Phew ! 😏