Yes, the Ever-lasting contrast. Since existence has known, the 'fight' between good & evil has continued. Obviously, this fight can never end. Good things turn bad, bad things become good. My fav. contrasting symbol, because it is so true & means so much – the battle between good & bad never ends… Here we ponder on the tragedy of Dylan Klebold.
They were talking about something more criminal than stealing parents’ cards (though that’s still a crime and don’t do it), and yes, Dylan could have been involved too. Instructions for carrying out credit card scams that were taken from The Anarchist Cookbook were found in Dylan’s handwriting:
We don’t know for sure what they did, if anything – maybe Eric was just trying to big note himself on the BT which he thought all his fans would one day see? But it seems they would have been happy to commit credit card fraud given the opportunity.
Also, Zack Heckler was definitely involved in some dodgy credit card dealings, and was suspended for using a teacher’s credit card to buy porn (lol). You can read how police found other people’s credit card numbers on Zack’s computer on pages JC-12,039-40 of the 11K, and here’s some info from researcher Peter Langman:
There is evidence that Eric committed credit card fraud,
but the details are unknown. In one of the videos he made with
Dylan, one of them mentions credit card fraud and Eric reportedly raised his hand, apparently admitting that he was guilty of
it. Zach appears to have been the mastermind of the credit
card fraud. The police confiscated his computer and found many
credit card numbers on it. Among these was one belonging to a
teacher at Columbine; there was also an apology to the teacher
for having committed fraud with his credit card.
It wouldn’t be surprising if the three amigos were in on this together, sharing illicitly obtained credit card details and tips on how to steal other people’s money.
I always love the fact that Zack got suspended for using a teacher’s credit card to buy porn and I’ll forever be wondering which teacher that was. lol That’s just literal gold. Smart teenage boys with too much time on their hands and a school curriculum that didn’t stimulate them enough. Idle hands are the devil’s work as they say. lol
Well, wonder no longer Ms @everlasting-contrast! It was Richard Long, the boys’ computer teacher who banned Dylan from using the computers after he called Peggy Dodd a bitch. Kind of makes Zack’s actions even more audacious, no?
From Richard Long’s statement in the 11k:
Ah ha! It’s all coming back to me now – Rich Long. Du-uh! I’d completely forgotten about that. *smacks forehead* And hmm.. redacted’s name I’m assuming the decoded version reads:
“Zack’s dad told Mr. Long about it. It was a suicide note (wowee!) written around the time Zack had been suspended for using Mr. Long’s credit card to get some xxx movies. This was in the fall of 1998. Mr. Long had never seen Zack wear a trench coat.” (which is true, Zack didn’t partake in the trench coat thing.)
So, from how this thing confusingly reads, this appears to have taken place one year after the three naughty amigos locker hacking incident (fall ‘97) – and what a ballsy thing to risk doing after getting suspended from the school for hacking into the CHS computer systems and as a result, losing the computer administrator position under..none other than Rich Long. Stealing his cc for p0rn vids was their idea of LOLzy revenge? ..only, well, it backfired on Zack. And so Zack’s dad discovered his son’s suicide note which had been written around the time he’d gotten suspended for the cc shenanigans. A suicide note. Ah, so much in common with Dylan. Thanks for filling in the blanks @acinnamon-girl 🙂
You need to catch yourself up about Brooksie. I’d suggest E-C Searching “Brooks” to fill in the blanks. Although, it’s not really that I dislike him so much because I understand he’s been struggling with a lot of disfunction as a result of Columbine. He did end up being a big let down in 2013 with his less than one week stint n Tumblr (search ‘Alice’ for the sordid details). Let’s just say I understand why his egotistical personality rubbed Eric the wrong way. I do hope that he’s changed a lot since then with his recent second marriage and new baby boy. He’s also doing therapy too which I feel is really a hopeful thing for him.
That’s so sweet of you to say. Thank youuu.. ❤ I hope things are looking up for you soon. Remember to be gentle with yourself because you’re doing the best that you can. Come visit here as often as you’d like when you need a reprieve. ❤ Have yourself a great week ahead! 🙂
I think he probably did enjoy watching Doom Generation and the other Araki flicks. Not all too racy when you consider he liked Natural Born Killers and Pulp Fiction. I think Dylan was a wild child when it came to the dark, freaky and bizarre flicks. He dug that sort of thing. It was a way to live vicariously through thrilling nineties style fantasy sex and violence and experience the opposite of his shy and quiet self for a couple of hours. A while back, I did write a post on Doom Generation and Dylan wanting the soundtrack. I likened Dylan being similar to Jordan White, in regards to the character being tragically romantically in love with one girl.
They were talking about something more criminal than stealing parents’ cards (though that’s still a crime and don’t do it), and yes, Dylan could have been involved too. Instructions for carrying out credit card scams that were taken from The Anarchist Cookbook were found in Dylan’s handwriting:
We don’t know for sure what they did, if anything – maybe Eric was just trying to big note himself on the BT which he thought all his fans would one day see? But it seems they would have been happy to commit credit card fraud given the opportunity.
Also, Zack Heckler was definitely involved in some dodgy credit card dealings, and was suspended for using a teacher’s credit card to buy porn (lol). You can read how police found other people’s credit card numbers on Zack’s computer on pages JC-12,039-40 of the 11K, and here’s some info from researcher Peter Langman:
There is evidence that Eric committed credit card fraud,
but the details are unknown. In one of the videos he made with
Dylan, one of them mentions credit card fraud and Eric reportedly raised his hand, apparently admitting that he was guilty of
it. Zach appears to have been the mastermind of the credit
card fraud. The police confiscated his computer and found many
credit card numbers on it. Among these was one belonging to a
teacher at Columbine; there was also an apology to the teacher
for having committed fraud with his credit card.
It wouldn’t be surprising if the three amigos were in on this together, sharing illicitly obtained credit card details and tips on how to steal other people’s money.
I always love the fact that Zack got suspended for using a teacher’s credit card to buy porn and I’ll forever be wondering which teacher that was. lol That’s just literal gold. Smart teenage boys with too much time on their hands and a school curriculum that didn’t stimulate them enough. Idle hands are the devil’s work as they say. lol
I did see that article, yes. I think basically it’s a tough situation for Sue to be in. She obviously avoids exploring these internet communities for her own sanity sake. She knew the real Dylan having raised and lived with him 24/7 for 17 years so I can imagine how hard it would be for her to peruse here and on other social media sites and to see the in-your-face bad ass effigy Dylan has been made built up as by troubled, disempowered youth who aspire to do a Columbine out of similar revenge fantasies. That would be perverse for any mother to have to deal with especially some twenty years on now and all the shootings which have ramped up in recent years which always seem to point back to Columbine being inspirational. It’s painful and disheartening enough for her as it is but visiting these communities would probably overwhelm her guilt. However, at the same time, by avoiding all of this, by putting a label over all of it and summing it up as ‘frightening and sad’, and by not getting into the trenches with others that resonate with her son and Eric, she is doing herself a disservice by not going into the deep dark tunnel to fully understanding the struggles of these folks which would help to address the ‘how’ this keeps on happening. If she managed to explore for a week and poke around, I think it would be apparent that there are shades of gray in this community and that it isn’t all dark, scary and pathetically sad. That many of us look out for one another and raise each other up when we’re struggling. Many of us are our own policing system and help to report potential would-be shooters or those that are suicidal. But I don’t fault her for not having the courage to ‘go there’. She is doing the best that she can given the horrible hand she’s been dealt. And she is already doing so much for mental health as it is. And I don’t think she wants everyone to think of Cruz as a monster. I don’t really take that away from her quote at all. I just think that it is a very tough spot for her to be in. She wants to be sympathetic but at the same time, she does not want to appear to be apologizing for the heinous acts of a shooter including her own son.
do you think that Dylan didn’t think about someone finding his “journals” since he deleted his hard drive? (And according to Sue it wasn’t actually a journal or a book, it was just pages scattered around in different books and other places in his room). His writings seems so personal and I can’t imagine that he wanted people to find those. But idk.
I think mortified is probably a better word here than disappointed. But he obviously didn’t care if he thought to delete his harddrive yet wasn’t fussed about destroying his personal thoughts on paper. I honestly think it’s a fair amount of him being too tired to care and also I tend to think he felt like leaving traces of his innermost thoughts behind for his family – so they’d have an inkling of the torment he was in and it wouldn’t be all one big mystery to them why he did what he’d done. The hard drive was another matter: it likely contained kink porn but also convos with friends that might’ve pointed the finger at them and got them in trouble as an accessory to the crime too. But I don’t think Dylan really paused to consider that his private thoughts would not only get into the hands of the police – well, maybe just that – but also become case files released as public information to all US citizens and by extension the world via the internet. Yeah, sure, he and Eric boasted on the Basement Tapes about how famous they speculated they’d become but that was just talking big in hopes that might be the case but necessarily that he believed all of that rhetoric himself. But now, after all is said and done, beet red embarrassment followed by a long, slow “OH wellll….” sigh of resignation.The cats out of the bag. And “maybe it’ll help others like me.” *slinks away*
I’m okay thank you. I hope this weekend finds you well. 🙂 I would suggest going for walks outside or out in nature and just listening and honing in on the sounds around you or you could try some simple 10-15 min of meditation exercises to help you begin to train your mind on how to focus on only the present moment. Not the past or the future but just being with/staying present with right now. It’s a bit like when you’re staring at something from a distance and you then shift and refocus on something right in front of you and then staying only on that and nothing else going on around you. Doing a little bit of these techniques daily can help you begin to shift yourself mentally from dwelling in the past and the pain from it. I know this may seem like it’s too difficult or seemingly too ridiculous to solve your problem immediately but it’s something you work on daily. Think of these exercises like taking mental medicine that’s good for you. ❤
“Enlightenment depends to a large extent on believing that you are born for freedom in this lifetime, and that it is available now, in this moment. The mind, which creates the past and future, keeps you out of the moment where the Truth of your being can be discovered. In this moment, there is always freedom and there is always peace. This moment in which you experience stillness is every moment. Don’t let the mind seduce you into the past or future. Stay in the moment and dare to consider that you can be free now.”
Ah, those critical Virgos.;) But on the bright side, the mystery girl’s face and her unknown imperfection was still perfect enough for him. Can’t see him going for model-perfect everything anyway.
And for Dylan, holding hands in a limo with a girl was definitely ‘going all out’. And the fact that he danced at prom and told his mom so..Big accomplishments for this boy. It’s all just so sad that those rites of passage he experienced just a couple of days before weren’t viewed by him as possible new beginnings but instead, just things to tick of his swan song to-do list before one hell of a perverse endgame.
The Everlasting Contrast 