Dylan talked about shooting out windows from the soccer field.. I’ve looked at the layout of the school and maybe I’m just dumb but where exactly is the soccer field located?

The soccer field is opposite of the senior parking lot, cafeteria/library, and southwest entrance at the back of the school.

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Also, why was the school’s gymnasium located on the second floor? I mean.. Not only did they have carpeted hallways but their gym wasn’t on ground level either? Lol none of this is actually important but I just find it to be really weird. The layout is just awkward compared to other schools.

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Columbine is built on a hill. When I was inside the school (not sneaking in; I was part of a conference), the gymnasium seemed to feel more like on the ‘main level’ as it was just down the hallway from the main entranceway and the majority of classrooms are on this level.  Then you go downstairs to the lower level which is in a way, like a basement as far as how it feels. The cafeteria, auditorium theater are there along with a hallway that leads to the business-related classrooms, world (foreign) language halls and the tech lab.  It was interesting to me that the computer lab where the geeks hung out resides downstairs kind of hidden and sequestered in the business hallway.  Whereas, the tech lab (where they made video productions) is upstairs. Ironic too that the tech lab is kitty-corner to a sort of prized and showcased ‘athlete row’ that leads to the generously sized gymnasium.  I call it the jock hall of infamy because literally right above the lockers leading down to the gym, weight room, locker rooms, etc. are framed photos of years of various jocks including Rocky and Dusty Hoffschneider lined above each locker.  I’ll have to post that video sometime so you can see how perverse it is. lol  The entire time I was there while school was closed in mid-summer, there were still jocks milling about doing their sports stuff down this hallway and on the sports fields.  Jocks are a perpetual thing here. That was abundantly clear to me. Some things just never change.

whats your thoughts on columbine not being one of the deadliest shootings in the u.s anymore?

Well, it hasn’t been the deadliest shooting in a very long while now.  Every since Sandy Hook and the Aurora theatre, there’s been such a gradual increase in shootings each year, each far more devastating than the last. The last few we’ve had a grotesque amount of carnage, and they make Columbine look like..well, child’s play. :-/ America is at war with itself basically.These shooters are a reflection of the toxicity of our society and how isolated and disconnected our culture has become.  The garbage is continually spewing to the surface in not only this administration but with people who have fallen through the cracks. They feel life is so meaningless that they are willing to kill and die in order to rattle the world for attention.  Columbine was basically just the beginning of the end of innocence and the start of internal terrorism.  It was the ‘before’  we had our own civilians attacking the populace and it helped foster the idea for others that feel the same way about taking matters into their own hands.  Columbine may have a very small kill count by comparison but it it is the initial home-spun kick-started event that had, by various degrees, become the catalyst which spawned all of these shooting we have today which have far surpassed it nearly twenty years on. 

Why do you think they didn’t follow the original plan of being killed by the police? Do you think they just wanted to end it and didn’t want to wait any longer?

It’s likely they originally envisioned that after the bombs blew, the police would’ve arrived on the scene and they would’ve been taken out in cross fire with them. But instead, they ended up entering the school and law enforcement did not pursue and engage them – probably much to their puzzlement. They had a last ditch effort showdown with law enforcement at the library window (partially probably because they were expecting to see the bombs in their cars go off). Their ammo was running low so they ended up making a snap decision to end their own lives before the authorities had the potential advantage of apprehending them.

How you gonna call a school shooting unoriginal when the columbine shooting was a ripoff of heathers

Easy. One is real life and the other is fiction. 😉   Columbine, with the duo partnership cooperatively planning nearly a year in advance as a failed bombing turned shooting, is pretty much the standard everyone measures all other mass shootings by..even though, yes, there were mass shooters looong before it. And honestly, I seriously don’t think E & D dug Heathers from the 80′s nor were they inspired by it.  Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying Columbine was ‘original’ just that many others that came after it all aspire to be another Columbine and after so many of these, it seems..well, unoriginal. Their motivation to do a mass shooting is often for no specific reason of their own except to try to be another Columbine or beat it. Blah, how insipid.  

I am honestly sickened by how students handled that shooting yesterday. Someone actually recorded and posted a video online of what I assumed to be a female student laying in a puddle of blood and I’m not 100% sure if it was her or not, but it sounded like she was groaning in pain. I have watched that short clip twice and I don’t think I could stand to watch it a third time. I broke down in tears. I find it disgusting that someone could stand there and film such a thing as well as post it online

Yeah, there is that voyeuristic, detached reaction these days with everyone so damn attached to their smartphones. Videoing a real live shooting for their social media likes was apparently more important than realizing the presence of danger they and their friends/classmates were in. Yes, it was disturbing footage: kind of like someone sitting there all fascinated with rapt attention while chomping on a bucket of popcorn. Otoh, I suppose in a way, it may have been a bit of a coping mechanism that kept them distanced from the fact that they were so close to imminent death and their focus was on watching/capturing it rather than simply being trapped in the midst of it.  It is sickening if you compare how jaded teens react today to a shooting about to go down in their own classroom versus how it was with students amidst the shooters at Columbine.  If you’d had given them a smartphone in the library would they have risked their lives to use it?  

PRAY FOR FLORIDA!

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How about we pray for the United States to come to its senses?  I mean, let’s be honest here… smh  😦  I don’t condone after-the-fact praying of state tragedies when this nation, as a whole, continues to fail to protect its own citizens with preventative measures so what happened today can no longer continue to happen as easily as it does nowadays.  

prayers mean shit when not followed by action. there’s a simple solution to this. i literally just got into an argument a few days ago with a colleague who was insisting that easy access to guns has nothing to do with america’s epidemic of mass shootings. yesterday he was praying for florida too.

i know prayers are a symbol of empathy and comfort but it leaves a bitter taste when these people did not have to die and there’s been a simple solution staring us in the face since the 90s, when two other countries (the UK and australia) experienced mass shootings, banned guns, and saw the number of deaths caused by mass shootings plummet to zero. it’s time to put our money where our mouth is. we are the only fucking country ON EARTH where this regularly happens. it astounds me that some people can’t accept why yet.

I’m with you.^^ And it’s never been a matter of IF it happens but WHEN so that the whole “pray for …” thing after it happens it’s kind of become a perverse joke. Especially when this really never need happen in the first place when implementing protective measures in our country. Yet so many here continue to look the other way and just whistle when it does. You may as well say that the US anticipates X amount of sacrificial lambs to the slaughter, using its own citizens as annual gun victim fodder as the price to be paid in order to retrain the 2nd amendment unrestricted. I’m far beyond sadden every time I see one of these so regularly now. I think my level of disgust that yes, here we are yet again, far exceeds any other emotions within me these days. This one was the magnitude of Columbine except that it’s just..not. Now it’s just this ‘oopsy..it happened again’ shameful reputation our country has acquired and for all the world to see..followed by how horrifically, unforgivably apparent it all is that the genuine motivation to truly prevent these from happening again is not at all a part of our countries priorities. These happening and people chiming in “thoughts and prays!’ Immediately after (something that could’ve been hindered in the first place by stricker gun control laws) almost seems like a pitiful tragic comedy that the US is doomed to repeat.

It is truly a wash, rinse, repeat in every sense and people aren’t seeing it from the bird’s eye perspective. Instead they’re just reacting and are prompted by the usual social media discussions that are pointless and ineffective. Just people talking amongst themselves, all stirred up for all of about 1 minute until they forget yet again. While I feel badly for those who have been horrifically victimized, this entire thing occuring so regularly with no end in sight frankly just sickens me.

PRAY FOR FLORIDA!

How about we pray for the United States to come to its senses?  I mean, let’s be honest here… smh  😦  I don’t condone after-the-fact praying of state tragedies when this nation, as a whole, continues to fail to protect its own citizens with preventative measures so what happened today can no longer continue to happen as easily as it does nowadays.  

pt. 1 hey E-C, hope you’re doing well!! i was just wondering, where is the smokers pit located? i’ve been looking everywhere to see if someone has posted a map of columbine highschool with a circle or arrow indicating where the smokers pit is located, but to no avail. i’ve seen your response to anon saying that “the smoker’s pit was located in the area on the left hand side of the school’s front or main entrance, just off school grounds” but i still can’t seem to locate the smokers pit on a

pt.2 map! i was wondering if you were able to show us where the smokers pit is or was located on a map. if not, are you able to link us to someone who might knows 🙂 thanks x 

I mentioned the approximate area the smokers pit was in this post.   Here’s a snap I took of the area I was referencing..better late than never, hm? 😉  It was on the border of Clement Park just off of school grounds. As you can see, compared to the photo taken at the time of the massacre, it’s now a much more grass-filled green area these days with more trees.  Back then it was mostly a dirt and grass area.  I tend to think the smokers pit is a nineties thing and no longer an option provided by the school these days for students. It seems just a bit too permissive especially when you consider that most schools and public buildings have clear signs stating that there is “no smoking” on the premise.  Anyway, I hope that helps give a better frame of reference. 🙂  and, I’m doing okay, thanks. ❤

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Sitting at a Clement Park picnic table facing the front of the school and teacher’s parking lot which was undergoing some construction over the summer break. 

Why didn’t sue or tom keep Dylan’s car??

I’d surmise it’s because it would’ve been far too painful for Sue and Tom to have glimpsed that car collecting dust in the garage or parked in the drive throughout the day and having that sinking feeling every time they glanced its way. The black beamer was a personal symbol of their son once in happier times. Now, they would never see or hear him ever again. Their boy was gone forever and not only had he died by his own hand, to make matters worse, he left this world having done irretrievable reprehensible things that plagued their every waking moment. It would have been a constant, painful reminder to keep the car just to keep it in his memory and for no good reason other than it had belonged to Dylan, their once-promising golden boy, who was now their greatest failure and loss.

Honestly there could not be a more perfect person to have started this blog. I admire you so much for having the mind to actually give us detailed answers of Columbine, the boys, victims, everything! When I ask a question to you I feel like it’s them answering back. I’ve learnt so many new things about columbine that I never knew and honestly it’s giving me inner peace, because I felt like I was in a spiral going crazy over columbine wanting to find out things, (Pt 1)

(Pt 2) and I feel like you answer everybody’s questions with a perfect accuracy. Things we actually want to hear, even if you don’t “know it” like nobody knows everything, I admire that you play it off cool and joke around here and there and give it a shot without saying things like “well I don’t know!” etc etc. I admire you as a person, whole heartedly! Thank you for this amazing blog, sharing your knowledge, and understanding of everything.

(Pt 3 final) also sometimes when I ask questions I feel like it is Dylan or Eric writing back. (in a nice way of course!!!!) Everything you say is just very informative, straight to the point. I always look forward to coming onto your blog and learning things I didn’t know about Eric nor Dylan, or seeing new documents from the 11k files. So thank you! Thank you Ms wonderful amazing everlasting!!!! 💗💗💗💗

I’m deeply touched by the many reasons you feel appreciation for this blog. I’m glad you feel you’ve learned so much from E-C and that you get when I’ve just been tongue-in-cheek occasionally. Your words are timely and inspirational in ways you could not know.. and so it means a great deal to me personally. Thank you infinitely. ❤️

Do you think if Zachary Heckler had been present for the “van incident” it would have ultimately changed things? I ask this because I believe that incident bonded E&D in a way.

This is a great question!  It would’ve changed things, for sure.  According to the way things were supposed to happen, Dylan had planned to leave Zack’s church function and have a sleepover at his house.  But had Zack hypothetically somehow ended up killing time along with Dylan and Eric around that van, I tend to think that Zack would’ve been that sensible third party talking some sense into them saying ‘nah I really don’t think it’s a good idea to break into the van…let’s go do something else’.   Especially after Zack ended up getting caught for the locker hacking at their school with these two just 3 months prior and given that Zack’s parents curbed his hanging out with them. I highly doubt Zack wanted to get into more serious trouble so he would’ve been the voice of reason of the three boys.  But when it was just Eric and Dylan, it was like they were two magnets negatively compelled to influence one another to do mischievous, daring and dangerous things and just for the hell of it..out of sheer boredom but also arrogance in thinking they wouldn’t get caught for doing something so ballsy.  But instead, as we know from Sue’s book, Zack ended up getting into a fight with his girlfriend and leaving and so Dylan was kind of, in a way, shelved on the back burner by Zack that night.  Devon was the priority for Zack yet again and clearly not his best bud. And so Dylan probably was feeling kind of poorly with Zack’s drama with his gf and being basically discarded. So when he and Eric met up to loiter around in idle boredom, the two moved beyond just stupid stuff like breaking bottles for the fun of it and now breaking into abandoned vans for the thrill.   Just these two dudes alone, the lone rangers, the lonely hearts club, that had no girlfriends with nothing better to do on a weekend night. These two that didn’t think about consequences of their actions, that wound up into major trouble together and yes, most definitely bonded them tightly for having been caught and humiliated by the cops.  Zack being there with them would’ve influenced them differently and changed the outcome.   But would it have stopped Eric and Dylan from bonding tightly over something else?  Hard to say.