Yes, the Ever-lasting contrast. Since existence has known, the 'fight' between good & evil has continued. Obviously, this fight can never end. Good things turn bad, bad things become good. My fav. contrasting symbol, because it is so true & means so much – the battle between good & bad never ends… Here we ponder on the tragedy of Dylan Klebold.
You mean for the van theft arrest? If so, I don’t think that’s the case as he and Eric were both pretty cooperative. Point me to exactly what you’re looking at and I’ll let you know what I think it says. 🙂
The video of ‘Eric in Columbine’ is not contiguous footage so yes, it’s different footage shot on different days all on one VHS videotape. Reasoning as to why it wasn’t Dylan videoing was addressed before here and here.
can anyone figure out what this says? I can pick out words here and there, but I’m horrible at reading bad or rushed handwriting and this definitely is. in case anyone is wondering, it’s page 61 of the final bunch of columbine documents, and I want to know what it says because I haven’t seen it (at least that I remember) in places where their journals have been put in order
Where is she.. Forever I will want her.. need her, love her, be with her (search for her) shit goes
Sadness pain, eternal denial is known when she doesn’t love me…
Okay, I’m starting this post
with a mea culpa. The other day, @depressioners pointed out something that has me facepalming. When I blogged
about Dylan and runes a couple of months back, I compared his symbol for
fate to an Icelandic Vegvísir.
This was
partly because of the way he scribbled the dashes at the end of each line –
sometimes they faced in opposite directions, sometimes they punctuated the ends
like a cross – but now I’m thinking those quirks were more likely due to his rushed,
haphazard way of sketching while thought writing.
@depressioners
mentioned when reblogging the post that Dylan sketched kolovrats, and that’s a
much more accurate description of his fate symbol! (Thank you, @depressioners!)
In his day
planner, we can see more fastidious examples of Dyl-ovrats:
The arrows in the second sketch are especially interesting, maybe suggesting what Dylan saw as the infinite, unstoppable wheel of destiny.
Polish
painter Stanisław Jakubowski
shared the kolovrat with the world in a 1923 book that compiled a collection
of Slavic symbols. It’s
an eight-armed Slavic swastika also known as the “little sun”, because it
symbolises the sun and represents eternal life. How intriguing that the
Sunshine Boy himself was drawn to it then – another synchronistic sun motif in
his short life (also see: his Setting Sun t-shirt and his plans for an alternate existence in sun-streaked Arizona).
Another
source describes the kolovrat as symbolising “the infinity and repeating
the cycle… in fight between Good and Evil”. It must be kismet that the symbol
Dylan chose to represent fate in fact represented another of his
preoccupations:
“the battle between good & bad never ends…” – April 15, ’97
An eight-armed swastika that
bears a strong resemblance to the kolovrat was also used as the emblem of the
Vehmic courts, a tribunal system in Westphalia, Germany, from the 13th
century until around the 16th.
The Vehmic courts dealt more in punishment and retribution than justice, giving this
seal a darker, undertone in contrast with the kolovrat. And around 1995, Nine
Inch Nails borrowed this
emblem for several Downward Spiral-era t-shirt
designs (example below).
It’s probable that Dylan became
familiar with this symbol through his interest in Nine Inch Nails, assigned it
his own meaning, and began drawing it regularly.
In his day planner for the week
of February 16-22, 1998, Dylan even planned what looks like a shirt design that incorporates the kolovrat/Vehmic court seal front and centre, with a
downward spiral on the left arm and the everlasting contrast symbol on the
right.
Isn’t it incredible how the
symbols Dylan was attached to had pertinent meanings beyond what he was likely aware of?
And yet, if you believe in synchronicity and signs, it makes perfect sense at the same time…
A kolovrat with a downward spiral in the centre…
Somehow I missed spotting this post but it’s a great dissection @acinnamon-girl 🙂 And @depressioners is spot-on identifying the symbol (I do so miss their presence on the tag and their ah-mazing artwork, btw. 😉 <3)
As pointed out, Dylan’s half-baked ‘symbols’ t-shirt design was sketched in his day planner in Feb ‘98. Interesting to note that it’s fresh on the heels of the January Incident (his van theft arrest on 1/30) and the waiting period of being processed into the diversion program. This time period was the absolute worst for Dylan: he got busted for two traffic tickets and was caught scratching ‘Fag’ on the locker next to his. He was also out of a job since having quit at Blackjack at the end of the previous year. Life had suddenly taken a massive turn for the worst and suddenly being the gifted, golden boy with a smooth and perfect track record was now a distant memory. So, he was dealing with some difficult and traumatic blows around this time period that this collection of symbols he resonated began to solidify into the patterned reflection that signified the gist of his self-perceived miserable life. As Dylan was getting sucked down ‘the up to down; down to up’ neverending drain that was the Downward Spiral and equally, felt the push-pull-push struggle of the equal forces of dark and light and the potentiality for good or evil as part of Everlasting Contrast symbol, the Kolovrat represented the unending journey in a circular, cyclical fashion – either from right to left or left to right, eternally spinning.
All three symbols are joined together as one as seen here what I like to call Dylan’s mandala.
It’s side-note interesting that Dylan’s family origins have a connection to this Slavic symbol (A portion of present-day Slavic people are classified into East Slavs (chiefly Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians). I don’t think it means a thing honestly but I thought I’d just throw that out there.
My nutshell understanding of the Kolovrat symbol is that it is an ever-spinning, neutral/constant sun force – which sounds rather positive and life eternal life-giving. 🙂 At least, this appears to be the case for the clockwise version of the Kolovrat. Dylan’s often quick sketch rendering of the symbol, he loosely connects the spinning circle’s directional, chicken-scratched, barbed-like endings in a reverse, counterclockwise direction instead. He directly connects his version of the symbol as a sort of self-decreed divine ‘Fate’. We know this because, in a passage or two, he even wrote out the word “Fate” but then scratched it out, opting to add the symbol in its place. In everything I’ve read about the Kolovrat beyond your post, the symbol doesn’t appear to have much, if anything, to do with ‘Fate’. The only thing that comes to mind in relation to how Dylan applies his symbol is in connection with the ‘Wheel of Fortune’ 10th card in the Tarot deck. The wheel symbol, on some of versions of Tarot cards, are drawn like the Buddhist Dharma wheel (which is “the wheel of the law” and the order of Nature. The moving wheels symbolize the movement of cosmic order) but looks nothing much like a Kolovrat though it’s meaning more closely resembles Dylan’s use of ‘Fate’.
“The ups & downs of fate are forever, good & bad, equal me.” – DBK
The Wheel of Fortune card is connected to Luck, Chance, Change, Destiny, Revolution, and Consequence and represents the cyclical nature of good and bad influences that can and do befall us in life at a moments notice – fluidly moving back and forth between good to bad and bad to good situations in life. If the card is received upright it signifies good luck, karma, life cycles, destiny, a turning point – but reversed, bad luck, negative external forces, out of control.
As is the nature of fate, sometimes surprises aren’t so happy. Yet, what is “good” or “bad” is all in our interpretation. When what may appear as an unsavory event showing up unexpectedly in our lives we must try our best to recognize some potential good from the situation. We may not see any benefit in the tragedy – but down the line, (when the Wheel turns again) circumstances from that tragedy may lead to amazing and positive influences.
“Obviously, this fight can never end. Good things turn bad, bad things become good, the ‘people’ on the earth see it as a battle they can win. HA fuckin morons. If people looked at History, they would see what happens.” – DBK
The Wheel of Fortune is also about consequence and “what goes around, comes around." This is in line with the concept of Karma which is a philosophy that proposes every action we take affects everything else – what we sow, so shall we reap – for every action there is an equal reaction. It would seem likely that Dylan gravitated to NIN’s use of the reverse, counterclockwise Vehmic courts symbol seen in their merch at the time in connection with the Vehmic symbol of both punishment and retribution (or Karma as with the Wheel of Fortune’s Dharma-like wheel) in relation to justice and reward with its sharp barbs on the end of each spoke frantically spinning (I love the way he draws it with the directional arrows that you posted up above!) :)) Such a representation must have had a heady appeal for him in his sense of feeling disempowered in life. Just like the heads and tails of a coin, this is just the darker, flipside, an aspect of the Kolovrat, clockwise, sun wheel or like receiving the reverse or upside down Wheel of Fortune card in a spread. In sense, ‘Karma is a bitch’ but we must surrender to fate and weather that which is dealt us. Conversely, as in relation to the Vehmic symbol of punishment and retribution, so must others. Essentially, nowothers must suffer as I have myself.
Anyway, that’s my food for thought meanderings that came from this great post. I’ll stop here for now. 🙂
Released to Tom Klebold on Aug 2, 2000 [011794] Yes, we certainly did not get to see a fair amount of Dylan’s papers and notebook stuff. The ‘journal’ writings of Dylan included in the 936 pages were not released by Jeffco to the public until 2006. Even Dylan’s parents did not get to see Dylan’s ‘journal’ writings until seven years later.
I don’t know who you are but I don’t want you to end your existence. ❤️ I know it’s really almost beyond impossibly hard to believe this: but you came here for a reason and you need to stick around to find out what that is. I know this probably sounds cliche but things will get better – but you can’t go at this alone because your thoughts will always steer you wrong. Please reach out and get some help. Talk to a friend or family member you feel the closest to or call/text a suicide support service if you are unable to see a traditional therapist at $$ or sliding cost. You really, honestly need a support system to steer you out of the quick sand inside your head to guide you back to a place where the glimmer of light 🌟and hope can become visible again in a state of healing. 💖💦⛅️🌤☀️ The anger is there for a reason that you need to express and purge. The anger is a mask for the hurt and pain. I am here, many of us are here for you, aren’t we?
Last but not least, Please DM me any time you’d like if you need to talk. Risk coming off anon for me. Our convos will remain in private confidences always. Stay with all of us through this difficult journey ..stay in Dylan’s name. Please stay.
I ❤️ and care about you. Xxoo
Part 2: I’ll keep in touch and ask my friend if she can keep me updated with more info! If there’s any more info I will definitely let you know. All the info on columbine was not made public and one of the files reported Mentions that the basement tapes were to be kept for critical evidence. But kept securely because it was an on going investigation (back then) ill get more info and hit you up definitely because this is just mind blowing I’m shocked. I’m really freaking SHOCKED.
Well, if the information provided to your friend’s cousin’s father (lol) was truly accurate and trustworthy, it’s interesting – but honestly, at the same time, it’s not too terribly surprising that Jeffco would officially announce the tapes destroyed to the public while simultaneously hoarding them, or copies of them, secretly under lock and key in a vault. I always thought that it was rather stupid of them to eradicate criminal evidence that is historically linked to their town. But after many years of being badgered by the public, Jeffco hoped that providing a cover story of the tapes being gone for good would be the ultimate solution to dissuade interested – only, well, it didn’t. lol The more they deny the world; the more they generate perpetual interest. Thanks for the info and do keep us updated. 🙂 I’ll leave it to all of you to decide what you’d like about this holy grail evidence. 😉
In regards to the extremity of their crimes, I don’t believe their criminal offense record would ever be just simply wiped away with time from the US system’s database. It would be a permanent record.
5. His parents were Thomas Klebold and Susan (Yassenoff) Klebold
6. He had an older brother named Byron
7. He attended Normandy Elementary School in Littleton, CO for the first and second grade
8. After transferring to Governor’s Ranch Elementary School, he became part of the CHIPS (Challenging High Intellectual Potential Students) program for talented and gifted children
9. He played T-Ball, soccer, and baseball during his early years of childhood
10. He had been friends with Brooks Brown since the first grade. They had both been in the Cub Scouts
11. He met Eric David Harris in the seventh or eighth grade at Ken Caryl Middle School
12. Dylan and Eric (along with others) were among the first group to see the new changes at Columbine (AKA the $15 million makeover that the school had just recently undergone)
13. He worked as a light and sound coordinator in school play productions
14. His locker was #837
15. He drove a black 1982 BMW
16. Dylan met Robyn K. Anderson at a Christmas party. The two would later attend prom together as friends
17. He had a foot fetish and was into BDSM
18. He and Eric worked at Blackjack Pizza. When they were bored, they would purchase dry ice to make small bombs with and would detonate them behind the pizza place
19. Dylan often swore in the presence of teachers
20. He, Eric, and another student had once been suspended from school due to the fact that they hacked into school computers. They had done this acquire locker combinations so that they could place a threatening note into an enemy’s locer
21. He and Eric often took computer parts from the school without permission (according to Nate Dykeman)
22. Dylan had once stolen an entire laptop from the school, but was forced by Tom Klebold to return it
23. He was left-handed
24. He was often described as a “shy child”
25. He loved baseball, especially the Boston Red Sox
26. He enjoyed bowling
27. He was intelligent but did not apply himself at school, which lead to him earning mediocre grades
28. After getting arrested in 1998 for breaking into a van and stealing things, he and Eric were charged with theft, criminal mischief, and criminal trespassing
29. Because it was their first offense, Eric and Dylan were enrolled in a diversion program. This diversion program consisted of community service and counseling
30. Dylan and Eric would do the Nazi salute when they went bowling or played card games
31. He and Eric enjoyed bands including KMFDM and Rammstein
Agreed. I think some just like the provocative idea of Dylan being bi that they are willing to overlook the fact that there is no concrete evidence in support of it. The Mike Connors thing crops up from time to time and it’s always the same old repetitive response of: ‘oh by god, is this true? Dylan was bi? well, hey, that kind makes sense’ replay. Seems like this topic cycles like clockwork about every 6 months, in fact. lol (Ahem, If you’re wondering what the heck I’m talking about, please use the E-C Search and ‘Mike Connors’, ‘bisexual’ or ‘gay’ to answer your own Q). And hey, I’m not at all saying I’m against the idea of Dylan potentially being bisexual but what I am saying is there is absolutely no hard evidence to support it. As you said yourself, Dylan only referenced girls by way of ‘she’ and ‘her’ in his writings and consistently as referenced in this post.
Soooo, it seems you can’t have your doughnut [footage] and watch it too 🍩
Aw, that’s too bad but, hey, on the bright side of things at least it was ruled out immediately. 🙂 I sure would like to hear the audio of this though as I’d consider this a munchkin donut hole until we get the main treat. 😉 Poor Nate. 😦