Is the EC against God/Christianity because it has an upside down cross on It? Thankyou

Isn’t that kind of like looking at the glass half empty and missing the rest of it?

You’ll notice too that Everlasting Contrast also had an upright cross, which could be considered the Christian cross in addition to the inverted cross at the other end of it.  But if we used your logic in only looking at one aspect of it, could we then say that the E-C was against the devil/Satanism simply because one part of it had the Christian cross?  No. To full understand the E-C, you’d have to see it in it’s entiretyboth cross ends of the double cross bound by the larger slash across the opposing two – which forms as the joining third cross in the middle. The third cross is probably the most important, signifying the balance and/or struggle of the duality and polarity that is within each of us. The potential to exist as having both within us and accepting both equally as valid.

-I–|–I-

The E-C triple cross is a constant, eternal force within the universe.

In a way, it’s a bit like the Yin/Yang symbol. Day and Night, Dark and Light, Good and Bad, Yes and No. One cannot exist without the other. For without the dark night sky, we would never be able to see, in contrast, the points of bright light known as the stars.  

How do you think Dylan (and Eric for that matter too) would feel knowing that pictures of their dead bodies were shown everywhere? Do you think they’d feel humiliated or just not care?

Humiliated?  No.  I really don’t think they’d care what anyone thought other than the fact the the sight of the two of them would make a useful, shocking impression on the world.  That they did what they did to themselves because they didn’t give a shit, they didn’t fear death and dying and they certainly didn’t have any remorse, apprehension and revulsion over taking other people’s lives and dragging them all kicking and screaming into death along side them.  Their battered bodies laying on the library floor in pools of deep crimson bloody gore represented how they were made to feel worthless and so therefore, everything in their wake would be dealt with as worthless crap.  ‘You all consider us worthless garbage so we’ll take out all of you out as the same worthless garbage and pieces of shit.’  

They were two bombs that exploded and imploded all at the same time.

They were the equalizers by leveling the playing field. War is war and death isn’t pretty is it people?  We’re ugly and scary to look at. They threw it all back in your face and the truth hurts.  Their bodies would be A Symbol that they feared nothing – not violence nor death.  And in so doing, they were a symbol of power that none could touch.  They took their own lives and no one on this shit hole of a planet was about to take them as prisoners. 

And, well, actually.. I do believe they’d be  morbidly fascinated as to how they looked in death..but also disgusted thinking about it in retrospect that the whole thing did not go down as they fantasized. It started out heady but rapidly became more of a nightmare in the end so they needed to end themselves by way of their own deaths to escape it. 

What’s the locker hacking incident?

In October ‘97, one student reported to the CHS dean that a
couple of items were missing from his locker, including a camera. Another
student said he got a threatening note in the locker warning him to back off
Devon Adams. I seem to recall that the incident apparently had something to do
with exacting revenge on Devon’s ex-boyfriend.  The dean, Peter Horvath, described Eric and Dylan as “brilliant”
but ended up suspending them along with Devon and her boyfriend, Zack Heckler, on Oct 2nd, for hacking into the school’s  computer system to get locker
combinations.  Zack, considered the
mastermind, got five days,  as did Dylan (according to his Diversion file), and Eric got three days’ worth.   Devon’s defense of them was that they did it because Columbine did
not challenge them. “Because we were all just bored.  When you get bored, you act out.”

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In Dylan’s diversion file, Sue writes her version of the locker combination hacking.  (She incorrectly has Fall ‘98 – it was ‘97 as this file was written up March ‘98).  Then we have Dylan’s veeeery concise version of events. “Hacking & possessing important documents”  Plus the Diversion representative jotting down that his suspension was for 5 days in 10-97. 

In a journal entry Dylan writes, “i know he & i are conceived from ourselves & each other. every night of the self-awareness journey, every thought we conceived, we have finished the race.” He goes on for a few more sentences and then adds, “the zombies were a test to see if our love was genuine. we are in wait of our reward, each other. the zombies will never cause us pain anymore. the humanity was a test. I love you, love. Time to die, time to be free, time to love.” [to be continued]

[cont’d] If you read that whole journal entry it’s clear to me he’s talking about Eric. Then suddenly he writes about the zombies being “a test to see if our love was genuine” and that their reward is each other. Now, I don’t believe Eric or Dylan were gay. I think Dylan may have been talking about his dream girl at the end but if that’s the case he didn’t write it well. The way it flows is that it’s his and Eric’s love that was tested etc. Maybe this is where ppl get the idea Dyl was bi.

This is a loaded question but a great one nonetheless.  So, grab a seat and here we go with the Dylanosophy 101…  😉

First off, here is the entry you’re referring to:

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In a journal entry Dylan writes, “i know he her & i are conceived from ourselves & each other. every night of the self-awareness journey, every thought we conceived, we have finished the race.”

First thing to keep in mind always, is Dylan is very laazzy with his handwriting. He often doesn’t finish off letters on words so they look a bit like short-hand. If you can picture him alone at night in his room, restless, unable to sleep, (maybe even at times partially buzzed on that screwdriver he snuck into his room) while scrawling out his emotional writing, it’s easy to see how different points of reference blend seamlessly within his paragraphs and how letters come out half completed in his haste to get thought to pen onto his notepaper.

What you think looks like a ‘he’ at first glance, is actually a ‘her’.   But first, to verify this, we need to look at his examples of his hand writing in which he is referencing ‘her’ to make a comparison.

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With Dylan’s other occurrences of the word ‘her’ in general, notice how the “r” has a slight upward hook at the end.    

Particularly, if you look at these bits:
“I see he-r in perfection,” and   “less than nothing w/o he-r  -O.”  

The ‘her’ could easily be mistaken for the pronoun ‘he’.  Dylan doesn’t even bother to finish off the ‘r’ there at all.   Sometimes his writing is so sloppy free flowing that he gets lazy on the “r” and it barely shows up as a hint -or- it doesn’t show up at all and appears as a mistaken ‘he’ as the loop starts to go up but then abruptly stops.

In making this comparison to his other entries, I’m pretty certain that Dylan is referencing his true love, his Halcyon Girl with  ‘her’ and not ‘he’ in his first sentence:

So I wait.. 5 more days. 5 eternitys. & i know her & i are concieved from ourselves & each other.  

What Dylan means by this is that he and his love are Soul Mates, kindred, one and the same. It’s essentially like the Emily Brontë quote:
“He’s more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same.” 

The second sentence of this paragraph becomes a bit ambiguous and blurred.

every night of the self-awareness journey, every thought we concieved, we have finished the race. time to die. everything we knew, we were able to understand it, to percieve it, into what we should, everything we knew, we know & use. an understanding of the everything.

Dylan uses “we” because he sees his joint connection with Eric and their united “self awareness / godlike” destiny partnership on the earth for what it truly is. (see purple below).  

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Dylan then appears to meander off in his thoughts and flows into referencing his Object de Affections, the girl.  (see pink below).

His loose, flowing train of thoughts interweaves fluidly in metaphorical references to Eric and back again to his Halcyon Girl, suggest that he is reflecting on a combination of both who he shares a differing Fate with.

Pink – His destined True Love  (his reward at the end of the test)

Purple – The Gods: Himself and his partnership with Eric
“we” (purple section) as in his unity with Eric and the journey they have been on together in partnership up to the NBK destiny.

“every night of the self-awareness journey, every thought we have conceived,we have finished the race, time to die. everything we knew we were able to understand it, to percieve it, into what we should. everything we knew, we know & use.  an understanding of the everything. An einstein stuck in an ant’s body. we are the nature of existence.

Eric and Dylan’s self-awareness, the nature of their existence – the very purpose and design of their journey on the earth and what it’s lead them to in this test.  The first sentence in purple comes across very verb active as if the two “we’s” have engaged in these tasks together on the physical plane.  

My interpretation of the Dylan and Eric (We/Purple section)  can roughly be interpreted between the lines like this:

“Every night of the self awareness journey” (writing in their journals perhaps, playing Doom late at night and talking?) “Every thought we conceived, we (Dylan & Eric the 2 man war against everyone else) have finished the race” (the race toward the finish line on the “toilet earth”),  "Time to die” (NBK) “Everything we knew, we were able to understand it, to perceive it, into what we should” (we evolved and are one step beyond the zombie-like human shit with our self awareness)  “Everything we knew and know and use” (we, in our state of awareness, have utilized everything around us as a means to an end) “we are the nature of existence.“ (the natural selection of the gods).

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Dylan then flows back into his thoughts about laying in wait of ‘Our Reward’.  What is that ‘Reward’ you might ask?  Each Other.  The reward of being united where they couldn’t do so in his earthly existence.  At last, being brought together with his fated True Love, this Girl and he would unite in the Halcyons after the test of this life existence was through, finished, completed. He, like Eric had come to his own sort of epiphany, living in humanity and realizing that he was among zombies and unable to assimilate. This was all part of ‘the test’ which had proven that this place and it’s people were false and the only thing that was real, pure and genuine was his love for Her and nothing else mattered as everything else had proven to not matter. Now that he knew this, the Zombies could never cause (the two of) them pain anymore. His love had transcended this false, painful existence.  He passed ‘the test’ and it would be over soon once it was “time to die. time to be free, time to (find) love (with Her).  This End of the test is the Beginning of our reward, each other united as one in the Halycons. Dylan wrote his afterlife. He created it with thought, will and intent, the most powerful tool of The Everything.  “Thought is the most powerful thing that exists- anything conceivable can be produced, anything and everything is possible, even in your physical world.”  It’s a bit like him riding off into the sunset with his love and the two living happily ever-lasting more.

I’m sure Dylan’s ‘her’ gets confused a lot for a ‘he’ by people straining to read his difficult script and so, of course, they might assume he may have been ‘bi’ given this section of his writing but that’s simply not the case if you examine his script within the context of all of what he wrote.  Also, if you look at the rest of his journal, it’s pretty apparent in other passages that he is clearly referencing a girl or girls.   

What do you think Dyl would say if/when asked what his earring meant?

Well, uh….It’s the dark and light, the good and bad that equals me. It’s the sum of who I am in a perpetual state of conflict split down the middle of this contrary force of an equation. One force would not exist without the other and to battle it, to struggle and hope to prevail is pointless because it just is.   Day will become night and night will become day as good will become bad and bad will become good.   It’s a universal constant, an ever-lasting contrast..
*awkward laugh*

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Do you know the name of the blog on here that has went over and reviewed all the chapters in Dave Cullen’s book? I was on their blog but then tumblr crashed on me and I can’t remember how I found their account.

That would be thedragonrampant who wittily reviewed a goodly amount of Cullen’s atrocious book ‘Columbine’.  Check out her latest review (and rant-fest), a “Special Edition’ of Chapter 40 entitled Psychopath  

In the Opera article Sue mentions about Dylan’s diary “a girl we never knew that he was near obsessed with” or something similar. But she says it in a way that that indicates it’s just about ONE ‘true love’ and not many different ones that are theorized on Tumblr. Hmm….

In the 2009 Oprah article Sue says:

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In November ‘97, Dylan writes (in great frustration!) his entry which is approximately 3 – 3.5 months after writing his “My 1st Love???” journal entry.

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“I don’t know my love: could be _Unknown Girl 1__, or _Unknown Girl 2__, or _Unknown Girl 3_, I don’t know & i’m sick of not knowing !!  to be kept in the dark is a punishment !!”

In January of ‘98 Dylan still puzzles over the riddle of which girl would be the perfect one meant for him:

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“ _Unknown girl__ is the newest..the purest (for now)..seems perfect for me.. I seem perfect for her.  I was delusional & thought she waved at me the last day of school.  Oh well..my emotions are gone so much past pain at once, my senses are numbed.  The beauty of being numb..Laterz”

The point being here is that Sue basically summarized in one short paragraph of the article what she learned from reading her son’s journal: that essentially her son was in love with girl that didn’t even know who he was. Specific details were omited. I would imagine that she likely read his fairly lengthy ‘love letter’ about the girl he was referring to so concertedly at that particular time and it made the biggest impression on her so that is likely what she was mentioned.  The truth is, according to Dylan’s journal,  he was at different points in time, attracted to various different girls that fit the bill for him in terms of his ‘true love’ and when one didn’t pan out, he’d set his sights on another.  He was not fixated on only one girl the entire two years of his journal or else we wouldn’t see the sort of process of elimination and frantic consternation he was clearly going through as referenced in the entries above.

I swear Dylan had 2 trench coats, what do you think? there’s one with the cheap mark with, but then there’s a leather one that you clearly see him wear in Radioactive clothing. the trench coat in RC and Hitmen for hire is completely different! btw I thought eric dutro was the first one who started the TCM before he transferred, and the first one to wear a trenchcoat because he wore it to a Halloween party in October 96. what do you make of this

Yes, Dylan had two different coats: his Australian duster to which everyone loosely referred to as a ‘trench coat’ as part of the TCM at Columbine, and he also had a traditional leather trench coat. 

The traditional trench coat is double breasted with two rows of buttons and button holes as well as epaulettes on his shoulders. You can tell by the sheen of it that the coat is a leather-like material.  He wore his true trench coat at Rampart Range and in the Radioactive Clothing videos.  A traditional trench coat has sort of an inspector-detective vibe about it like Sherlock Holmes.

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The Australian waxed cotton duster is single breasted and closes with snaps (no buttons unlike a true trench coat). It also has a storm flap and two large external patch pockets on the hip closing with snaps. The little over the shoulder cape portion is exclusive to the look of dusters but you can remove the cap portion.   It also has straps that go around the legs that Dylan chose to wear in HFH as they’re walking down the side of the building.  He wore his duster “trench coat” in Hitmen for Hire and also during NBK.  The look of the Duster shoulder cape helped to fill out and enhance their scrawny shoulders and made them look puffed up like an intimidating peacock. 🙂

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Quite a few of the TCM from ‘96-97 claimed to be the first with the trench coat uniform. Tad Boles, Eric Dutro and Chris Morris all laid claim to being the first few, if not The One that came up with the idea of starting the original trench coat duster aesthetic as part of the TCM.    This article claims Tad was the first followed by Chris.  Though, I’m sure Chris would claim he was first.  

We have no way of knowing exactly who was the very first any more than they did. 😉

One thing I’m curious about the whole blackjack manager thing is he said that Eric and Dylan pulled up at the store and stared on the morning of 420…hoe they were going to shoot up the place as a distraction…I’m confused because it sounded like Eric and Dylan liked their boss so why would they kill him specifically?

I largely think that Jeffco wanted to instill the fear in Chris Lau by insinuating that the boys were plotting revenge on their own workplace in addition to the school.  It was a tactic too, a way to get the managers and staff off the premise so they could check and make sure the location was safe.  When, realistically, had Eric and Dylan rigged their workplace or shot up anyone there, it would’ve blown their concerted plans too early on before their attack of the school. So, the cops would’ve likely been on their asses pretty quickly by the time they headed off to the school. The diversion bomb that they’d set to go off near the field/fence area nearby some homes, was supposed to do the trick to lure the cops attention away from their ‘Ground Zero’ so they could carry out ‘Operation Columbine’.  So, there is no concrete evidence that the two plotted to attack Blackjack other than a coworker waiting at the locked shop earlier in the morning and then noticing Dylan pull up in the lot. Chris Lau, along with co-manager, Jason Secor, only took over that Blackjack location for a month or so prior to 4/20. And even though Eric had some differences with the new management style, it was mostly just that he was used to their previous alcoholic boss, Bob Kirgis, allowing the two pretty much free reign of the shop to manage it when he was checked-out and do whatever the hell they liked including partying and drinking on the roof and setting off fireworks and dry ice bombs out back.  Basically new management actually managed the place and so Eric likely disliked the fact that his new bosses had more of a handle on running the shop than Kirgis ever did, Lau and Secor even promoted Eric, giving him a raise on April 16th which was the very last day the boys worked. The boys even both received cash advance (guess for what? ;))  they’d requested which seems to insinuate that they were trusted enough by management to get those. No, I really don’t think Eric hated Blackjack even if he wasn’t especially liking the management all that much and adjusting to Lau’s rules.  He liked the Blackjack crew and had fond memories there.  He spoke on the one Basement Tape vid in fondness of the ‘Blackjack crew’.  So, I don’t think there was enough of a grudge there for either of them to want to decimate their place of work or attack their co-workers.

What we do know is that Dylan and Eric were driving around a lot on the morning of 4/20, going to Eric’s house and some gas stations between the two of them, driving here, there and everywhere – so that by the time they were actually scheduled to start the attack, Dylan was rushing his BMW into the parking lot of CHS just about 4-5 minutes before the attack nearly running into Chad Laughlin’s car.  I doubt they had much time to ‘chill’ as Dylan had factored in on his plans for the morning.  It was as if they were visiting places for the very last time to acknowledge where they spent their lives and had fairly good memories and to say their last silent ‘goodbyes’ even if it was just pulling into Blackjack for a minute or two to stare.  They weren’t at bowling class the morning off – as in, they didn’t attend class – however, a couple of witnesses said they saw the two in the parking lot briefly. So, in between NBK prep, it’s conceivable that they may have popped by bowling on the way to the school to say their final adios there too. 

Jeffco seems to have instilled enough fear in Jason Secor that to this day, they are of the mind that Eric and Dylan also plotted to attack Blackjack prior to their attack on Columbine. (That interview with Secor can be found here.)  It just does not seem plausible that they’d start their plot of destruction prior to their true attack location thereby attracting attention too early on.  This is even why Eric let Brooks go.  They had a schedule and a timeline and wanted to stick to it..even though what actually happened is that they were running super late that morning. I would say that was due to their second thoughts and sentimentality by driving by places to say goodbye.  

Hi! 😈 Wouldn’t Dyl having two Aries parents have a strong influence on his personality and in turn work against or counteract any of his fence-sitting Libra tendencies?

Love this question and ironically I was thinking about the fact Dylan had two Aries parents just the other day. 🤔 Seems to be happening a lot lately actually with this blog.. 😏 Dylan seemed to be surrounded by dynamic, fiery Aries energy with Sue born March 25th, Tom, April 15th (Tax Day and 5 days away from NBK. Ouch.) and Eric born April 9th. Dylan’s sun sign is an Earth sign, Virgo which by comparison to the ‘take charge’ momentum of Aries, would be more of a slower paced energy, more cautious, pragmatic and mentally dominant. Additionally, as you mentioned, Dylan was very Libran in nature. His Virgoan sun sign energy was diluted by five whopping planets in airy Libra which would’ve made his vibe more easy-going and flexible, chameleon-like agreeable, a waffler and passive-aggressive. His parents would’ve probably both been very pro-active in encouraging and attempting to motivate him to succeed in school and to consider his future career. Given that he was depressed and floundering and doing a half assed job with school and was having off and on jobs in ‘98, he must have often felt like they were riding his ass and nagging him.

In his journal, Dylan bemoans that to paraphrase ‘his parents piss him off and want him to have ambitions’ and he feels that that is an impossibility. I’d say those escalating confrontation with his parents often ended up with him snarking back sullenly then going off to his room and slamming his door for the rest of the night. While Aries Eric was a perfect compliment to Dylan as a friend that combustibly inspired him to take action, Sue and Tom as Aries would have made little to no dent simply for the fact that they were his parents and as a teenager, Dylan likely dug his heels defiantly at the motivational speeches and the goals they’d try to get him to set for himself. He’d refrain from talking much if at all to them and would act annoyed and tending towards being stubborn and contrary to their wishes since he felt they didn’t truly understand him. I think deep inside, he wished he could have the motivation they wanted but given his depression, it was simply beyond him to please them. He hated them for it because he hated himself for not being successful and capable enough as he’d once been as their gifted golden child. So yes, two Aries parents probably felt frustrated in rallying up their son to be a more dynamic force like themselves; they were essentially spinning their wheels. Then again, regardless of parents astro signs, teenagers are going to override their parents wishes no matter. 😏 It’s just the fact that Sue and Tom were probably go getters all their lives with their education and careers so their ‘doer’ energy would’ve been derailed, frustrating them greatly by both of their sons. Let’s not forget that Byron was a Libra /Scorpio cusp born Oct 23rd (!)

Question! About Dylan being abusive to the girls in gym class, do you happen to know when that was? Was it throughout high school, or 11th/12 grade (before they took bowling)? I agree with many your views on the original question, but I always wondered that if it was happening during his last few months at school, if part of him had stopped caring to try and hold back his anger, so to speak, to those he felt were stuck up.

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Dylan took regular P.E. gym class throughout most of his attendance at Columbine all the way through first semester of 12th grade/Senior year which ended mid December ‘98. So, he struggled and endured a few years of it and this would’ve been when he began to, at times, act out aggressively.  Regular gym classes could’ve consisted of team sports, swimming and others depending on what he elected to take.  I do believe he even took weight lifting at one point earlier on maybe Freshman or Sophomore year (lol ikr?)  These classes would’ve forced him to interact with mostly a group of classmates he didn’t know all that well that he didn’t mesh well with and felt like an outsider.  It’s difficult to say what sorts of regular P.E. gym classes he chose since we don’t have Dylan’s class transcripts and all of his schedules. (We definitely have more of Eric’s)   We can verify that Dyl took regular P.E.gym classes all the way up to Dec of ‘98 because the Diversion report records list him as tardy and basically on the brink of failing class with an ‘F’ by the tail-end of First Semester for tardies.

By Second Semester, Dylan had elected Bowling class for his P.E. gym option and it shows as having started Dec 21st.  He would’ve had the bowling class for about a week in Dec ‘98 right before holiday/winter break started and would’ve been off school returning by January to finish out the rest of his Senior year of ‘99 with bowling class. He was grouped in a team among friends so it would probably the only good time he’d ever had in a ‘gym class’.   Sadly, he only had about roughly four months and one week of Bowling gym class fun with his friends. :-/  

What did Tom and Sue do with Dylan’s belongings in his room after he died? Did they leave his room like it was for a while?

It took the Klebolds three  painful years to clean out Dylan’s room and to remake it into the pleasant guest room (which, btw, author Andrew Solomon slept in while interviewing for his book “Far from the Tree’). I would say that Sue was inclined to be recycling conscious, to anonymously donate some items that she thought other boys might get use out of while tossing other less important things and to keep the most important personal items that she felt a strong connection to her son. Though, honestly, no matter what items of Dylan’s they were sorting through, if it was just meaningless crap in his room, if it belonged to him, and was in his bedroom, everything would’ve felt excruciatingly important regardless. Everything in his room was a piece of their son that they would have to slowly say goodbye to.  It would’ve been a rather difficult, long, slow process for both parents to grapple with. 

I also spoke of here in this post how it was for Sue and Tom to receive their son’s personal items from the massacre – all of his clothing, the trench coat and his inimitable “B” ballcap which was finally released from Jeffco three nearly four long years after the massacre.

where they were devon, robin and zack at the time of the shooting ?

Devon was in math class when the shooting started and escaped quickly without encountering Dylan and Eric.  She reached safety and was listening to news reports that included descriptions of the killers, but no names.  "I knew immediately that it was Eric, and when I heard the description of the other boy, I knew it had to be Dylan,” she said.  Devon returned to the school and went to police to identify her friend as one of the killers. 

Robyn Anderson along with her friends Monica Schuster and Tammy Golden, drove away from Columbine around 11:10 to go for lunch at Dairy Queen. Her friends relay that she seemed a bit rushed to leave for lunch. When they returned around 11:25am, they were stuck in the parking lot for 2 ½ hours. Between 11:25 am-12:05 pm, all three of them saw Eric/Dylan in the Library windows at least once.  Robyn spent the aftermath of the shootings huddled in her car for three hours and at one point was hunched over on the floor in front of her car seat because she heard shots fired and glass windows breaking. The moment they had pulled into the lot, a cop car followed them and told them to stay put, Robyn and her two friends realized they were watching shots being fired from the library windows and saw two figures walking around one in a white t-shirt.  Robyn was nervously eating her Dairy Queen lunch and crying off and on. Her friends heard her say things like ‘who could be doing this?  students?’  When they finally left the school and were listening to police and news reports and Robyn had heard ‘TCM’, her friends remembers Robyn saying ‘one of the descriptions sounds like Dylan’ and then ‘I hope they didn’t do something stupid.’

Zack Heckler, who was in the choir room when the carnage started. He ran outside with a group of students and ended up in the Smokers’ Pit. Zack helped other students climb over the fence, then clambered over himself. They all ran toward the Columbine Public Library, about 400 yards away. Along the way, one of Zack’s friends suffered an asthma attack.

Do you think even though they didn’t want kids do you think they still would’ve had them? What do you think dyl would name his kids? What about EH?

If they had made it through the tough patches as young adults, gotten into a relationship and married, suuure, they both would’ve had kids. It’s inevitable.
All teenage boys say they do not want kids. Then their late twenties and thirties hits and well, things change, I guess you could say. Priorities shift.

Violet and Lorelei Klebold   I somehow see him with just two girls he’d dote over. Though for boys, if any..  Quinton and Nicholas Klebold   Three cats and two hamsters. 🙂

Gunnar, Flynn, Jane and Samantha – Eric would have a brood of four-five kids. He’d eventually stop resisting the conservative, republican family culture he was raised in and end up conforming to it.  Lots of dogs.. two big ones and a little spitfire..to start with. 😉