hey! this is honestly not to cause you offence or anything I’m just generally curious. if you know that Dylan was ‘possibly’ a sexist, racist and a homophone who murdered innocent people, why do you still write about him in such a ‘loving manner’?

I don’t know anything about writing about Dylan in ‘such a loving manner’?  So, you’re posing such a question within the pre-determined parameters of your own personal take or narrative about my blog. From where I’m standing, I write about Dylan in an unbiased, non-judgmental manner which is pretty much the opposite of how most care to entertain Dylan (and Eric). They prefer to write about the boys from only the angle of the last hour of their lives when they ended up becoming murderers.  But what’s important is the many years before and all the influences and experiences that shaped them into what they chose to become. The purpose of this blog is to explore both Dylan’s negative and positive traits as a flawed human being who was struggling with the dark and light within himself. Hence the title of my blog The Everlasting Contrast.  Though Dylan was a gifted teenager, both wise and intelligent beyond his age, in some ways, he was still on par with the emotional immaturity of most 17-year-old boys especially hanging out with other male peers in a very toxic masculine environment near the end of the nineties.  Plenty of teens have negative anti-social belief systems and can be sexist, racist, with homophobic or xenophobic belief systems and all of these are more often than not the result of being raised within narrow-minded, conservative, and non-diverse communities.

And for that matter, plenty of people, not just teenagers, have these anti-social mindsets which have acutely, uncomfortably, come to the surface of awareness in the present-day Dump political era –  revealing the ugly under the carpet just demonstratives how much we need to mature and evolve as humans and technological advancements, in the end, do not count as evolution.   All that ever was wrong with Dylan living life in the late nineties is simply a microcosm reflection of what was/is wrong with this country, and by extension, this world. A teenage boy hating others because he himself felt hated by others. A teenage boy that turns to murder which ends with the murdering of himself as well as a desperate solution to end his problems is a tragic example of all that is not right with this world. And how many others since have committed the same destructive, self-eradicating atrocity since as their last suffering cry-out for attention? It is important to know their suffering as our own, it is important to examine and understand them – all the good and the bad, so that we may prevent others from following in the footsteps of Dylan’s (and Eric’s) tragedy. So, no, I don’t know about writing about Dylan in a ‘loving manner’ but I do write about him in an unconditional, all-encompassing manner so that we understand that anyone lost within themselves could fall through the cracks and could become like Dylan.  Instead of looking away from the killers; we should be looking head-on through them, so that we may learn the lessons.

WHAT Eric was shirtless on the basement tapes… in front of Dylan?? I thought they would be like… no homo dude.

They were dressing up in their battle gear?  You guys really need to catch yourself up on the Basement Tapes  This is required reading if you’re truly interested in this case, imo.  Me thinks some of you have Dylric on the brain at the mere mention of ‘shirtless’. *rolls*

The tape stops, then starts again, showing Eric wearing black BDUs (battle dress uniform style pants), no shirt and a web-type harness. He’s carrying the carbine attached to a sling and he is holding the shotgun. Eric sticks the shotgun into one of the cargo pockets and secures it with a web strap at his side. 

Dylan gets dressed, pulling on a black trenchcoat. “I’m fat on this side,” he says and starts talking about how he looks “fat with all the stuff on.” He tries to toss the TEC-9 into his hand from where it’s hanging on the sling but his coat prevents the move.

leak the shirtless eric/dyl pic pls, i remember you mentioned smth like that once 😭

dude, I remember this one time you said something about a shirtless pic of Eric/Dylan… if you have it, could you post it?

Duuuude, c’mon now. Nobody has that shot of Eric shirtless because it’s on the Basement Tapes which were never released (and never will be).  That said, even if I had it, I wouldn’t post it since it’s not relevant to this blog yo dawg..

Who was Eric talking about in the 911 call? “That bitch ain’t staying alive got get her.”

I don’t hear that at all. period. My strong opinion on this is that people listen to that audio and hear what they want to hear out of it. It’s so poor quality that people desperately want to hear Reb and Vodka doing the deed in the library.  So with every little sound, people form stuff into a phrase, etc. It’s basically pareidolia. No two people ever hear the same thing with that dang audio clip. I do not hear even half the things people claim they hear. It’s a bit ridiculous honestly. So, who was Eric talking about?  No one, nothing, plus that patterning in that particular section of the audio from youtube doesn’t even sound like Eric at all. It’s very high pitched. It’s just frankly silliness. 

In No Easy Answers Brooks Brown suggested multiple theories on why Dylan slipped him the note. One suggestion that I find particularly interesting is that Eric deliberately told Dylan to tell Brooks so it could make Brooks mad? How credible do you believe this theory is?

If that was the case then why would Dylan need to tell Brooks not to mention to Eric that he told him about it?  I tend to think that Brooks has over thought about it to the point of distorting the actual situation into something convolutedly paranoid. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then it probably is just simply a duck. Brooks has stated upon a couple of occasions that he and Dylan never had a falling out and that Dylan was stuck in the middle of the tensions between Eric and Brooks long-standing feud.  I explored Dylan’s (rather simple) motivations for telling Brooks and asking him not to tell Eric he told him in this post.    

Wait Nate had family problems? I thought he was happy and carefree (thus not able to relate to Dylan’s depression)

Nate was an easy going dude personality wise but that doesn’t mean his life was a piece of cake. I’m sure there was plenty of male friction in his home in the form of Nate getting older yet having to deal with a stepfather acting like ‘the dad’ and his mom probably reinforcing that which pissed him off which made him want to spend less time at home  After his graduation, Nate had planned to move to Florida to live with his real dad and pursue a career at Microsoft but after the tragedy occurred, Nate instead ended up secretly high tailing it to Florida. He was extremely pissed off at his mom for accusing him to be complicit with his two friends who’d turned into killers. His mom arbitrarily searched his bedroom and threw out his metal music and anything else she felt was influencing her son to align with E and D.  He left literally a day or so after the massacre. He’s lived in Florida ever since.  So, I would say that his preference was for living with his real dad than his mom.

Did e&d ever go to boulder that we know of

Yes, Dylan and Eric did drive up to Boulder for some gaming with a gamer friend of Erics.  This was spoken about in the Brandon Martine “Jester” interview.

GESI: Where was it that you met Vodka?

MARTINE: Um, I think it was the first time online which was on the BBS when he said uh, um, my friend’s gonna play ‘cause uh, he’s here with me and I said what’s his name, you know, and I think he even signed up on Mystical Realms, he signed up as uh, Vodka on there and uh, then the first time when I met uh, Reb, he brought his friend, which was Vodka, his friend and if I do remember correctly, when we did go up to Boulder, we parked in a parking lot and he drove a BMW.”

GESI: Who did?

MARTINE: Vodka. He (Reb) said that he didn’t drive, he said Vodka had to drive.”

GESI: So Vodka drove a BMW that was his dad’s or his own?

MARTINE: Um, I’m not so sure about that. I do remember him talking about how he said he wanted to get a nice car though ’cause I was talking to him about that.”

So, Dylan told Brooks about the threatening website Eric made, right? Forgive me if this has already been asked but did Eric ever find out Dylan told brooks? This has been bothering me for a few days and I can’t seem to find an answer on it, so I figured you were the best person to ask.

Not a problem. As long as you took the effort to look. 🙂   We can’t be certain but I think it’s fairly safe to say that no, Eric never found out that Dylan told Brooks about the website.  If he had, you can bet that Eric would’ve been pretty pissed about it and so we would’ve likely heard from their friends about the incident as a fight that had occurred between them.  Eric may have felt that Dylan betrayed loyalties by informing Brooks and it might’ve caused Eric to start rejecting his friendship with Dylan. Otoh, Dylan was pretty much the only tight friendship Eric had so perhaps he would’ve only given Dylan a hard time about it.  Regardless, there does not seem to be an accounting from their friends that a rift between them occurred.  So, my conclusion here is that no, Eric never found out.

you don’t think sue washed Dylan’s baseball cap? she just left it bloody? wouldn’t that of been a painful reminder of what happened

I feel as though Sue wouldn’t have washed his ballcap.  Washing his blood out of it to make it all clean would’ve essentially been like trying to deny everything all away. Her son’s blood had spilled by his own hand and soaked through that hat which he always wore every day of his life. His own lifeforce was infused in that hat. As morbid as it sounds, I do think Sue would’ve carefully preserved his ballcap and stored it along with a handful of other special belongings.  It would be a painful reminder, yes, but everything about Dylan would always be a painful reminder. It could never not be that after 4/20. But regardless of that pain, Sue needed to feel that close connection to her boy.  Just as she had done by wearing his clothing in the months after the tragedy.  Dylan had been cremated and there was nothing left of him physically..except for his precious blood spilled on his prized homespun ballcap She could hold that hat to her cheek and cry tears of unending heartache and loss for her beloved son that she loved so dearly and not only lost by his own hand but intertwined with disgrace.  And those tears of sorrow would mix with the dark dried blood-drenched cap and she would feel closer to him and all his hidden, silent suffering that she somehow missed.  It just wouldn’t be quite the same had she held his freshly washed ballcap. Symbolically, that would’ve been like washing a piece of Dylan down the washing machine drain. 

i find it hard to believe that dylan and eric were really as unpopular as the media portrayed them. surely they had friends outside the trench coat mafia circle, and had girls interested in them?? before senior year they seemed super likeable.

Well, they did have friends and some of those friends weren’t directly a part of the TCM circle? So, while they weren’t popular, they had a decent handful group of friends but they were computer geeks and not chick magnets. They were awkward and timid around girls and essentially girls really did not hit on them in school. Eric pursued girls but not in any sort of confident way and he got apathetic responses from them. Dylan was too shy to continually try to stick his neck out asking girls out. He tried once and got rejected and so then he just stopped entertaining the idea altogether.  And yeah, they could be likable, if you got to know them. But they were not open and likable to anybody and because of that, they appeared to others to like not running with the normie crowd.  Smart, unsocially skilled guys that could be nice but they were always on the outside looking in.

this is possibly the weirdest question you’ll ever get…. do you know if columbine replaced the furniture they had in 1999? i was just thinking that students there today could be sitting in the same desk dylan, eric, or the victims once did. it would be so eerie.

 After carefully examined and cataloged, all the furniture in the library and the cafeteria, the two most devastated areas, would’ve been destroyed and those areas were then stripped and renovated. Any random ruined furniture elsewhere in the building would’ve been replaced with new furniture. Everything else –  such as desks and chairs in the classrooms that were in decent shape would’ve stayed the same. So, yes, some of the desks and chairs that E & D and the victims sat at would’ve been the same furniture pre 4/99.

Do you believe that Sue was or has been misled by Dave Cullen in any way, especially since he was acknowledged in her book?

I think Sue has been misled by Cullen in many ways, in the variety of ways in which Cullen provides his own narrative superimposed over the actual reality of what happened.  Unfortunately, Peter Langman also gave Sue his opinion and some of his ideas are on the same page as Cullen. The two telling Sue similar things reinforces that false narrative for her. Because this is coming from “professionals” she tends to believe it as credible and therefore, closest to the truth.