what did Dylan’s family do with his ashes?

Dylan doesn’t have an ‘official’ grave site that anyone can visit, so there’s no information to share. The truth is, he’s buried in our hearts. He’ll be there as long as we live. — Sue Klebold

You can draw your own conclusion from this. I would say that it’s a likely possibility that Dylan’s cremated ashes reside in an urn on the fireplace mantel of his parents home. 

why do you think Dylan was saying all these mean things to people before he kills them, but eric doesn’t?

Because Dylan was normally shy, quiet and introverted he typically tended to suppress the negative aspects of his personality. He sat on his feelings and for the most part, peers thought him easy going and ‘gentle’. Occasionally though, Dyl blew off steam being openly resentful in class with certain teachers. His parents remembered him as their brilliant golden boy but they also acknowledged that there were plenty of times when their son was mouthy, resistant and ill tempered. NBK was the opportunity, for once, in which Dylan could literally not have to hold himself back in any way – to externalize everything he’d always normally had kept under lock and key. He could be as nasty as he wanted to be – no holds barred. ‘Judgment Day’ represented a catharsis that afforded Dylan one last opportunity to be free and truly let every censored vestige of himself go – to in a sense, blow the lid off that quietly simmering pot of anger, jealousy and resentment. It was his last day on earth – a day to celebrate – ‘today is the day we die!’ was the eerie battle cry that a few witnesses couldn’t help but hear resounding throughout the halls of Columbine. NBK was that last hooray to go out with a literal bang, to finally get revenge on ‘the society’ symbolically encapsulated by the toxic, exclusive rigidity of his school. Anyone Dylan didn’t know on a personal level was a fair game to taunt and mock, make fun of and shamelessly bully back. Those faceless symbols, those small-minded, petty ‘zombies’ stuck in a state of ‘humanity’ who added to his rage; they all played a part in making him what he’d become, what he hated the most of all. He could yell and scream as loud as he wanted; he could cheer and relish in the power and destruction in his wake. For what fun is life without a little death?

everlasting-contrast:

Debunked!

This video clip taken from an italian documentary falsely depicts a claim that ‘Dylan shot from the small library window to ignite the bombs inside his BMW.’ The distance combined with the awkward, extreme angle of the BMW in relation to these particular library windows makes it pretty improbable that any of their weapons would’ve been effective. Dylan proved ineffective at simply shooting human targets on the CHS grounds and that was in closer range and straight on.

Yes, there’s clearly someone moving around in the library window, but it could be anyone and more likely a victim. If Dylan were hypothetically attempting to shoot from that far away, the window would have likely been opened or broken and you would see part of his arm/hand/weapon protruding in an attempt to aim. Instead, we only see vague movement in the window. The documentary that spliced these two images together is essentially generating sensationalized disinformation. The 11K refers to the methodical manner the bomb squad detonated the bombs within Dylan’s BMW after the incident. The second image of the car detonating or ‘breaking’ the rear passenger side window perfectly describes the second video image of the BMW exploding and it dovetails the testimony described.

Classic reblog

What is your thoughts on Dylan misspelling his middle name? I mean that’s always struck me as so odd. Who does that past 1st grade? And he’s so intelligent it makes it more bizarre

one-winged-falcon:

everlasting-contrast:

Sometimes things are as uncomplicated as our intelligent Dyl being nothing more than in a lazy ass mood while writing in his journal..or… a bit tipsy and in that half assed mood. a-hem. Of course, he may also have preferred to spell his middle name with with one ‘n’ instead of two so that it matched the one ‘t’ on the end. I do something similar where I put an ‘e’ on the end of my name because I think it looks more symmetrical; I always write my name this particular way on a personal level rather than using the correct, legal spelling of my first name. Since I favor equipose, I usually have the impulse to spell Dyl’s last name with two ‘n’s’ and two ‘t’s’ to finish it off – as in Bennett.

I always wondered if it was some lost in-joke referencing Jonbenet Ramsey.

Oh, niiice, I like the possibilities of this idea.. Consider that JonBenét Ramsey was murdered on December 25, 1996 in Boulder, Colorado and this particular journal entry was written March 31, 1997  –  three months after the mysterious murder of which the media hype was enormously widespread.  I could see Dylan and Eric collectively rolling their eyes over little JonBenét the sexually exploited little brat whose image was plastered all over the tv and magazines and whose parents deserved what they got for dressing their daughter like a little whore.  I do recall JonBenét was mentioned in one of Eric’s rants. So, inside jokes? That’s plausible.  Dylan may have been playing at it with his middle name in this instance in the mid journal muse:, ”- when Dylan Benet Klebold got covered up by this entity containing Dylan’s body” referencing a connection of  his ‘little self’, the natural, normal ‘boy Dylan’ being covered up by this foreign, older entity as in relation to little girl JonBenét who was involuntarily covered up with a promiscuous adult-like image and robbed of her own childhood.  On the other hand, wouldn’t he have played up the inside joke a bit more by referring to himself as DylanBenét Klebold with his first and middle name joined as one with the accent mark?   At any rate, it’s a good speculation based on what was going on in the media at that time.  There again, Dylan  could’ve even unconsciously misspelled his middle name while deep in thought because of all the ubiquitious ‘JonBenét ’ references everywhere. 

Dimensions of Thought – May 21, 1997

Dylan further discusses the properties of the physical reality, how his thoughts are the most powerful creator.

Time, Space and Thought


“Within the known limits of time… within the conceived boundaries of space…. the average human thinks those are the settings of existence…Yet the ponderer, the outcast, the believer, helps out the human.  "Think not of 2 dimensions,’ says the ponderer, ‘but of 3, as your world is conceived of 3 dimensions, so is mine.  While you explore the immediate physical boundaries of your body, you see in your 3 dimensions – L (length), W (width), & H (height).  Yet I, who is more mentally open to anything, see my 3 dimensions, my realm of thought – Time, Space, &  THOUGHT.  Thought is the most powerful thing that exists– anything conceivable can be produced, anything & everything is possible in your physical world.’  After this so called ‘lecture’ the common man feels confused, empty, & unaware.  Yet those are the best emotions of a ponderer.  The real difference is, a true ponderer will explore these emotions & what cause them.  Another… a dream.”

The universe is approximately 13.8 billion years old, which makes the outer boundaries twice that in light years.  Yet beyond the physical boundaries of the universe, the thoughts we can think appear limitless.  The language of mathematics allows us to write ‘infinity to the power of infinity’.  The mind can think thoughts that cannot really exist outside the mind.

Dylan’s prose expresses once more an important aspect of quantum science, as explained earlier, namely that the observing mind induces the result of its own measurement.  While this may be true when we observe the behavior of electrons and photons, it does mean that an underlying ‘real’ reality does not exist.  Reality is an illusion that helps observing minds make logical sense of how one thing leads to another.

But some scientists express a bigger concern.  As science digs deeper in the world of atoms and particles, will there ever be an end to new scientific discovery?  Or do scientists them induce new layer of reality simply when they ask new questions?  For example, we now know that atoms are made of protons and electrons, and they themselves are made of quarks.  The problem is that reality may be a sort of onion having infinite layers, in which case science will never be able to answer what the universe is made of and will have to admit defeat.  

However, if the science could really be the cause of its own measurements, then the human mind that invents such science truly is the creator of its surroundings.  Have we built the world we live in by collectively dreaming it up? Do we give birth to a new answer when we pose an original question? 

It appears to me that thought is the most powerful thing that exists. The thinking mind can imagine abstract, infinite realities that we cannot communicate with words or images. 

Quantum mechanics takes a toll on the senses of even seasoned scientists, because of its implication that real reality does not exist.  But others emphasize that we should embrace the ideas of quantum science: “Someone who has learned to accept that nothing exists but observations is far ahead of peers who stumble through physics hoping to find out ‘what things are’.”

Dylan’s passages once again echo Heraclitus’ thinking.  Compare “Thought is the most powerful thing that exists […] physical world.” with Heraclitus: “Of all the worlds yet spoken, none comes quite as far as wisdom, which is the action of the mind, beyond all things that may be said,” and compare “After this so called lecture the common man feels confused, empty and unaware […] what caused them. ” with “Many fail to grasp what they have seen, and cannot judge what they have learned, although they tell themselves they know.”

God Complex

“I think, too much, I understand, I am GOD compared to some of those unexistable brainless zombies.  Yet, the actions of them interest me, like a kid with a new toy.”

Not cogito, ergo sum – I think, therefore I am – but cogito nimium, intelligo
I think too much, I understand.

Compare the first sentence of this statement with Heraclitus:  “Those unmindful when they hear, for all they make of their intelligence, may be regarded as the walking dead.”

With great intellect comes great arrogance.  While it is not healthy to look down on people so much, in such a misanthropic manner, both Heraclitus and Dylan Klebold generally felt incapable to communicate their ideas to their peers, which became the cause of their social reclusion.

When Dylan calls others “brainless zombies”, it is simply a mental revenge on the school bullies that cast him out.  In terms of intellect, he felt socially and emotionally as far removed from Average Joe as “God” to “un-existable, brainless zombies." 

Jade Vega wrote in her ‘applied final project’ titled Dylan Klebold and Schizotypal Personality Disorder: "This is one of several instances in Dylan’s journal where he not only demonstrated odd thinking, but odd speech, as well.  He used several words which were not real, in addition to using words in inappropriate contexts.”  But Klebold’s “un-existable, brainless zombies” are simply a reference to the humanoid enemies in the computer game Doom, and they are coincidentally called ‘zombiemen’, Former Humans or Former Sergeants. 

The odd adjective “un-existable” refers to people who, in Klebold’s view, are like primitive animals who live in the three dimensions of space, but never in the three dimensions of “Time, Space and Thought”.  They do not have the overdeveloped mind that burdens Dylan, that makes him question everything about the world around him. 

What bothers most about Vega’s interpretations is that by her measure almost every philosopher would have to suffer some personality disorder.  The oddest thing about Klebold’s writings is that he manages to express highly abstract ideas using the limited vocabulary available to him – limited because of language, not because of Klebold. 

This gem of a book can be purchased on Amazon and you will be able to read the rest which includes Eric’s philosophy. I highly recommend it!

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I’m not ignorant therefore I can recognize Dave Cullen is, but is his book “Columbine” still worth reading even if it’s to understand some of the wrong perspectives.

Sure, I’ll agree with you on that.  Any book can be worth reading to obtain perspective even if you don’t particularly agree with much of it. There were a few things in Cullen’s book I liked amongst all of it’s tripe. I mention the good, the bad and the ugly of “Columbine” here.

I read somewhere that the basement tapes have been destroyed please tell me this isn’t true! D:

Clap your hands together and recite three times: I do believe, I do believe, I do believe the Basement Tapes still exist!!”    At this point. all we have to go on is to keep calm and carry on with our faith and and hope – that Jeffco was merely being sneakily literal to stop the incessant requests – and while the actual VHS ‘tapes’ might’ve been physically destroyed, their digital copy counterparts are still in existence, under password encrypted lock and key. If by some twist of Fates chance, they’re awaiting release, someday.. somewhere.. sometime..in the not too distance future.    Anything can happen, right?  Well, maybe..

I want to believe! – Fox Mulder

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17 years ago today (Jan 30th 1998), Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold broke into a van and stole $400 worth of electronic equipment during the night. After getting caught and arrested, they both were eventually placed in the Jefferson County juvenile diversion program. Upon entering the diversion program, they filled out several pages of questionnaires and paperwork for the intake (xx). Eric wrote an apology letter to the van owner days after the incident (x) while additionally ranting about it around the same time in one of his journal entries (x).  Months later, he also wrote an essay about the van break-in for school (xx).

The January Incident – 17 years ago today – Jan 30, 1998 – Jan 30, 2015

Dyl’s blink. ❤

Do you think if Dylan had a girlfriend, would he have been really jealous of her around other guys (i.e. jocks and stuff)

Outwardly, Dylan would not have let on that he was jealous.   She, however, would’ve noticed some signs of him being more withdrawn and sullen in her presence. He’d internalize it and would’ve automatically relegated himself as unable to compete for her affections. If he saw her associating with jocks, a mortal enemy in his eyes, Dyl would’ve stewed about it. Pissy arguments would likely have ensued if she pressed him and asked why he was being such a stick-in-the-mud. So, jealous, yes, but passive-aggressive about it. He’d be sure to let her know in an indirect way that something was wrong but would not want to be direct or openly angry because it might mean he’d risk losing her by expressing his upset – even if he felt he was losing her all the same – just because she was talking to other guys.

Dylan about his arrest (taken from Far From The Tree)

Sue: Dylan, help me understand this, how could you do something so morally wrong?
Dylan: Well, I didn’t do it to another human being; it was to a company. That’s what they have insurance for.
Sue: Dylan! You’re scaring me!
Dylan: Well, it scared me, too, because I don’t know why I did it. Just, suddenly, we’d done it.

To a company? Oooh, well, that makes it so much better, dear.. lol

This is in reply to c0atimundi’s comment in the Quirks: Indiosyncrasies of DBK’s: punk gloves which I posted a while back. Based on studying close-ups of their gloves in the death repose shots, I would say that the two most probably shared a pair of thick, heavy weight padded black gloves on 4/20. Looking at Dylan’s signature finger wave in the Morning Ritual video we can make a comparison and definitely say it’s not those gloves since they are more of a knit pair of gloves.  

The clue-in for me was that both have the same exact white cotton padding material oozing out of the finger holes where the gloves were probably hastily cut with a pair of handy scissors just shortly before they left Eric’s house.  I did some searches of images of people that DIY finger cut  heavy-weight style gloves and none seem to show this same type of white cottony material where the cuts were made.   I’d say it’s a good bet that it is one single pair of gloves shared by both for NBK if not a certain type/brand of gloves that they both bought/wore for the day – we just can’t be certain which scenario is the case.  Given how much injuries and bleeding their hands sustained just during their practice shooting at Rampart Range, they probably opted for a heavyweight, thick gloves that could absorb the kick-back shock and spare their hands.  Why cause themselves any unnecessary pain during NBK when the idea was to inflict the pain on others that day? Anyway, just a little observation I made recently and wanted to share for any further thoughts/input. 

Another interesting side note: I also marked an arrow in the death repose shots of the ingenious wrist match strikes the two are wearing in opposite yin/yang mirroring of their dominant hands: Dylan on his right wrist and Eric on his left.  They almost seem symbolically like shared brothers-in-arms silver bracelets. The two invented these tools so they could quickly strike a match and light their incendiaries and pipe bombs effectively.  I believe the FBI was actually impressed because this hadn’t been invented nor used before.  Too bad these clever dudes did what they did and killed themselves, huh?  Sharp, creative, talented minds, what a misplaced waste…

Are you a cohort of E & D? Because I am and I think it is really interesting how kids today are into the 90s. I think part of the Zeitgeist back then contributed to the whole massacre. The late 90s were a very Nihilistic, consumer driven age (not that that has gotten any better) but it was the climax of blissful, remorseless consuming. “I,I,I am Tiger Woods. It was the nineties. Now it´s the twenty-first century and you are either with us or you are against us. Where is your flag?” (Rankine)

Well, aren’t we all? At least, figuratively anyway.. 😉 Yeah, tis true. There is a sort of romanticism about the 90s for those that didn’t sentiently experience what it was like. Everything seems more ‘perfect’ because the grass is always greener on the other side, huh. I think that is a typical thing of younger generations thinking what came before them was better. The decade was a combination of nihilistic cynicism mixed with that illusional sense of promise with all the dot.commers cropping up and then tanking by (the dreaded) Y2K with all those suddenly worthless stock options. Dark tv shows with X-Files and alien obsessions, Millennium or cheesy Xena Warrior Princess. Kids having it all, seeing it all, bored, restless and dissolutioned with what society has to offer them for a future. It was a ripe time for Columbine as you’d said. 1966 had it’s hippies with their love revolution and just flip those two last digits to 1999 and we have the hate revolution with the warrior Indigo children rebelling against the establishment, compliments of R & V.

hey, i was thinking about purchasing Columbine: A True Crime Story by Jeff Kass and i was wondering if you think it a good book and worth the money? thanks :)

In my personal opinion, Columbine: A True Crime Story is the best of the bunch other than ‘No Easy Answers’ by Brooks Brown. Kass’ book has a lot of good factual information plus, unlike Cullen, he interviewed witnesses to support his book. It has excellent background on Dylan’s family origins and parents. A very decent, informative read!