The Interview with A Dylan

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At last! Complete, Full, version!

https://youtu.be/gHAQichYRG0
Credit goes to Bill Ockam

Finally, on some whim, Bill Ockham decided to post the long awaited, full “Dylan Behind Blackjack Pizza interview” complete with Brooks Brown asking Dylan questions. Yes, folks, now we no longer have to string together pixelated video snippets of the interview and imagine (or attempt lip reading to suss out) exactly what Dylan was saying. And now we don’t have to resort to merging the incomplete audio version of Brooks and Dylan’s Q and A with those disjointed, fuzzy, video clips as was done a few months back to arrive at semi-complete satisfaction at seeing this interview. Yes, now, finally, we have the entire thing in all it’s near HD crystal clearness (well for 90s quality) with Dylan finishing his tale of how he and Zack precociously pranked their favorite theatre teacher Mrs. Caruthers (affectionately known as “Mrs. C”) while prepping the stage and got her to utter a variety of expletives in her frustration.

Speaking of expletives, I was thoroughly amused at when Brooks asked Dylan what swear words Mrs. C used “exactly” while “bitching out the entire cast in the dressing room”, Dylan’s voice goes up a slight octave as he looks a way in thought and considers his words carefully “Umm m… (long pause)….I don’t exactly remember. She didn’t use all the cuss words”. To me, it’s so obvious that Dylan was a tad to sheepishly embarrassed to flat out offer up this information since he knew Mrs. C was eventually going to see him repeating back her swears on the final Frankenstein Roast video to her – that is until Brooks interrupts him and starts blatantly flings out a variety of swear words at him “DAMN” “HELL” “SHIT” and ah, yes! now it’s all coming back to him (as if it was ever that vague in the first place hahaha!) – Dylan (suddenly) remembers in agreement and – ah, well, the hell – repeats back said swear words directly at Brooks and deadpan to the camera). “And… (Dylan muses a tad.. no. definitely no “F*CK” was said) …you..you could hear it from the auditorium.” Brooks laughs amusedly “that was good” he comments. Dylan smiles and smiles and rejoins “so…that was pretty dumb”.
Admittedly, I’m so pleased that we got to see this entire interview (Ockham mentioned to me that this is it for the Blackjack Interview; there aren’t any more questions in this snippet). Glimpsing the bashfulness of Dylan as just an ordinary boy is so bittersweet. It is even more abundantly apparent to me how difficult it has been for his close friends and family to reconcile how he ended up committing the atrocity that chose to partaken in…And it’s hard to fathom that it was merely only roughly 6+ months after this interview.

Ockham also stated in his YT Live last evening that there are other snippets of Dylan on the video tape. Including an innocuous, mundane snippet of Dylan killin’ it eating some Chile’s food. And of course, we all would want to see all of this stuff, wouldn’t we? Not really because it’s gratuitous but because we have to see this extraordinarily ordinary stuff simply because it helps us to process the banality that is evil. That if even someone like Dylan is capable of doing such a horrible thing – then, really, we all are capable, aren’t we? We are all one and the same. It’s important to understand this, to own Dylan and Eric as ourselves, as we all have our own personal, private, dark struggles in life. And ultimately it is all about choices that is the difference. In my opinion, this ‘in the trenches’ approach of identification and relatability is key to prevention.

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52 thoughts on “The Interview with A Dylan”

  1. Yay I’m so glad you posted, you always offer great insight into the new Dylan content. I also noticed how his voice went higher when asked about the specific words but now that you mention how Ms. C would see the video it makes much more sense why he would stall. The video quality is very good and I wish we could see his eyes but it all fits in with what Sue said in her book that leading up to 4/20 he used his sunglasses a lot as a way to hide in a way.

    Small moments like that chuckle at 0:03 really go on to humanize him and I wonder if those who still may place all the blame on family and friends for the tragedy may change their opinion after watching this or any other new content. It’s easy to say there would have been signs and that E+D told someone but seeing his actual behavior with our own eyes is pretty haunting, especially taking the timeline into consideration.

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  3. Hi, sorry I red your PSA: Questions post and it says to ask questions in the comments:

    Here is mine: I found an image of a journal with a celestial design; it reminded me of his doodles of the crescent moon and stars. Would you think Dylan would’ve love to receive this as gift? Do you

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  4. Hi E-C! I used to follow you on tumblr from when I first started learning about columbine in like 2015 (or earlier?) up until your blog was deleted. My own tcc-blog was deleted too, where I had posted drawings (recall one of Dylan holding a “screwdriver”? Or one hugging his cat?) and gifs. I was truly sad to see your blog vanish. Now I found this one through a coincidence, and I just wanted to thank you for keeping at it and finding a new way of sharing the knowledge, analyses, thoughts and stories that you do so well and, in my opinion, respectfully. I hope you’re well (despite this year and what it brought on the world) and I will check in on this blog often! Bear wishes!

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  6. Have you seen the video Two Dylans on YouTube?- It has Randy Brown talking about what Dylan was like as a kid with video clips of him drumming! I love that you still post btw (you’re amazing and I hope you have a wonderful day 💖)

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  7. What makes me more curious from what Bill posted was that he later in one of his livestreams that Dylan is the one we see behind blackjacks and not in hitman for hire, yelling at the camera. To be honest, I think both are Dylan, it is just that despite him laughing while filming hitmen for hire, I think that that is Dylan showing part of his anger that he was saving and has hidden from some people, especially his parents.

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  8. So, do we ask any questions here?
    I actually was hoping that I could email you, because I have more than one question. Several questions in fact, about this blog and the content. Nothing bad, I find it all quite fascinating and insightful!
    So, however often you may check this thing or get emails, I hope I hear back from you soon.
    Cheers! 🙃

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  9. when R u doing the video on the full Frankenstein roast and other rare vids like drummer boy dylan etc that randy and bill hokham are releasing?? u dont seem to cre about the ne footage.. unless its been cancled???

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    1. Hello there. Everything is fine. Thank you for your concern. 🙂 I haven’t been posting here mostly because WordPress is a very difficult medium to continue blogging on; it is not very user friendly. Recent posts I have made that include media have been troublesome and often images don’t show or video has been deleted. It is rather a let down so I have stopped populating more content. Unfortunately, there has not been any adequate Tumblr replacements as I had hoped there would be by now. So, unfortunately, this blog is in a stasis until then… :-/

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      1. That sucks, I really love your content on this blog. Are you posting anywhere else in the meantime or have you found some rare candid Dylan photos recently?

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  17. I hope you continue to add more information, I really like your blog. I learned so much information about Dylan here, thank you so much!

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    1. i mean.. how would miss E.C. reply to your question if she was deceased? i hope she returns one day, i just found this comment amusing hahah

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  32. I remember reading through your blog often back when I was in high school. Such a good resource and you always seemed like an interesting and kind person. Like many others who commented before me, I hope all is well in your life.

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  35. And I wonder what you think of the photo… It still feels surreal that we’re getting new photos of Dylan even now, after all these years. I hope you’re doing well, and I truly wish you all the best, Miss E-C

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