I think we all know Brooks Brown is better the Dave Cullen but has Brooks ever shown any kind of dislike for Dave Cullen

Indubitably truth. ^^ I’m not sure whether Brooks has shown blatantly open hostility towards Dave Cullen in media. But he did make this somewhat neutral criticism bout Cullen’s book:

“A great deal of misinformation – I responded to the top post in length, but the short version is that Cullen claims I didn’t experience what I (and tons of other students at that school) experienced. He’s going against medical records, police reports, FBI findings and more. So…take it with a grain of salt?”

Do you think right before Dylan died, he might have had some slight regret?

Sure, yes, definitely a tinge of regret in there..but ultimately, it was done. The Deed was done and he knew there would be no turning back no matter the price of any sort of regrets.  He preferred to stay focused; he couldn’t afford to look back over his shoulder to the time before, before NBK’d begun. He started It knowing once he and Eric were ‘in’, it would play out and come to this end. He wanted to move forward and leave the earth behind and be free from it.. Human regret was a small price to pay compared to being reunited with the peace, happiness and freedom that he awaited to reunite with in the Halcyons. He addressed his parents:  ”Just know I’m going to a better place. I didn’t like life too much and I know I’ll be happy wherever the fuck I go. So I’m gone. Good-bye.” He took care of his regret for the people that created him and the rest had to be incidental in the grand scheme of breaking free. 

Do you think dylan would of been dominant in bed? Like with power names (sir,daddy,master etc), slaps, hair pulling etc? he was really shy so do you think it would be hard for him to do this without getting embarrassed?

I think Dylan would’ve been able to openly express his sexual fantasies with a girl he felt a level of trust and comfort with.  It would be all about being intimate with the right sort of girl that would make him feel at ease enough to relax, express and free himself.  I’m not going to say that Dylan was hardwired sexually dominant here.  I think for the most part, people read his journal and jump to conclusions that he iwas dominant by nature because of the ‘bondage extreme liking’ of his porn.  But additionally, he also had that ‘foot fetish’ which is more often than not more along the lines of a submissive fetish kink.  I think Dylan’s sexuality is more complex in relation to the variety of forms of love play expression with/for his woman.  He could easily have been a Switch – role playing dominant  -or- female adoring submissive  – simply because of the amount of Libran influence in his chart which denotes qualities of balance, harmony and flexibility in his style of erotic expression.  I tend to see his natural inclination to be more attuned with giving in a pleasing manner, if not completely adoring and putting his woman on a pedestal. However, If she wanted to explore this type of play with him, I think he would be willing to please but also a bit anxious –  at first – though I think he might surprise the both of them how enthusiastic he found himself to be.  Think Dylan dropping the computer in the Carwax commercial “GAWWWD!!!”  Lots of raw, powerful energy being released there. 😉 

 Dylan’s spent much of his public life being shy, introverted and quiet and so he normally withheld and suppressed a lot of his strong, aggressive ‘unacceptable’ emotions.  So there is would be that compartmentalized side of himself that he denied normally on a daily basis and so giving himself permission to take charge with an erotically liberal woman would be the perfect er, stress relieving outlet. I don’t think he would be a life styler or brutally hardcore on the S/M side. Since you’re asking specifically about Dylan in a ‘dominant’ manner, I  tend to see the appeal for him more of the D/S side of things with lighter S/M accents. It’d be more along the lines of various forms of bondage fetish play, the intricate rope bindings/knots (those exacting Virgos!), the controlling of movement so that he feels in charge and in control along with the anticipation on his bound love’s part. 😉  Shy,embarrassed and tentative the first couple of times but would’ve warmed up and instinctually taken to it more than even he expected.  Again though,I’ll underscore that he could’ve been dominant for his girl not would’ve been as in, that is the only way for him to be.  

sorry if this has been asked before, but do you think had the shooting not had happened and Dylan had gotten with a girl, would he have been a good dad? Or did he want kids in the first place?

Hmm, maybe you did ask this before and I somehow missed this one? Was your previous ask this question:

What type of husband/ father do you think dylan would of been?

I’m assuming that your asking what Dylan would be like as a father or husband in his (late) teens and not in relation to what older Dylan would be like. The second ask on this sounds like the question is about 17-18 year old Dylan so that’s what I’ll address here. Truthfully, I’m not about to sugar coat this: Dylan would be horrible and sucky as either or both. 😉 Generally speaking, any teenage or young father/husband is just not going to be present in the maturity department enough to cope with those serious responsibilities or handle the parental obligations. Dudes (and to be fair, girls too) are still in that self absorbed, me-centric stage of their lives – very much too busy figuring themselves out before acquiring the tools to parent their own kids. Ideally, that’s as it should be. Teenagers marrying young because of premature pregnancy is statistically a set-up for failure. Plus, this is Dylan we’re talking about here, and he had major personal problems which he was not really communicating to anyone else for help and barely managing it on his own in secret. Being a boyfriend is one thing but owning the set of responsibilities that comes with the title ‘husband’ and raising children is a whole other level of sophistication he was not prepared to deal with.

Dylan muttered out loud while his dad was snapping photos/taking videos of him and Robyn before prom: I’ll never have kids..kids just mess up your life.” I do believe when he said this, he was in that moment, reflecting on himself and contemplating the immediate future decision he’d chosen to make to end his life in a very grandiose, infamous way and the nightmare he would be putting his parents through and also, to a lesser extent, his own brother and the grief that Bryon had caused their family with his tenacious drug problems. To Dylan, kids in direct relation to himself and his brother equated that kids were unpredictable and could make your life as a parent a living hell all because of their offspring’s potentiality for failure. He understood that full well. Kids = not a pretty wild card. Marilyn Manson called it “crop failure”, actually.

I think if Dylan was seriously dating a girl, he would’ve chosen to be super careful, mature and responsible and would practice safe sex. It’s enough to know how picky Dylan was about the girl he saw himself with so you can imagine he would’ve been careful about the rest while dating her. I can not really see him accidentally, and definitely not willingly, getting his girlfriend pregnant. He perceived himself a failure and a fuck up in this life existence and so just the idea of procreating his own genes in carbon copies of himself is probably the very last thing he’d want to contemplate in his late teens. “My life sucks and so it’s got to be even worse having kids and dealing with their sucky lives” was his mindset in 1999; it was far more hassle than it was worth.

Again, Dylan is no exception here since I would say the majority of young dude’s just don’t entertain the idea of having kids or the prospect of marrying early and being ‘the man’ and the ‘in charge husband’ the way some girls might romanticize that whole fantasy package scenario. If Dylan got a girl pregnant early on and had to entertain the prospect of fatherhood at 17 or 18, I think he’d react very paralyzed like a deer caught in the headlights. 😉 He would likely withdraw inward even more that he already was and probably out of great sense of guilt. He would be pretty much checked out about it all the way around. Dylan might be walking her to class and her tummy would be getting noticeably bigger, and he’d be having an out-of-body experience and not really present with he even though he was physically. It’d be a constant reminder he wouldn’t want to deal with. Yes, he’d be mature enough to own up to the ‘accident’ and perhaps reluctantly shoulder some responsibility for getting his girl pregnant but he would never happily own that position. It would be like going through the motions out of duty and obligation. It wouldn’t be something he wanted of his own volition so he would end up being resentful and probably even way more depressed (if that’s even possible 😉 ). If he became a situation where he felt obligated to marry the girl, it would be a disaster out of trying to ‘play’ at it and make it work and ultimately turn out to be an ugly blame game. He just wasn’t ready for that huge package deal because frankly, he didn’t have the tools to take care of, love and nurture himself. So, just noo. Please, let’s be nice to Dyl and not make him fit into this scenario because it was hard enough on the poor dude as it was at seventeen. 😉

Older Dylan might’ve been a different story though.. 

“I wonder how/when i got so fucked up… my mind, existence, problem – when Dylan Benet Klebold got covered up by this entity containing Dylan’s body.

Like ignorance = bliss..They don’t know beyond this world (how I do in my mind or in reality, or in this existence) yet we each are lacking something that the other possesses – I lack the true human nature that Dylan owned, & they lack the overdeveloped mind / imagination / knowledge tool…”
–Dylan Klebold

I love this blog and I love the way you write & think. I was wondering about your take on indigo children… Do you believe Dylan & Eric were indigos?

First of all, thank you very much for the kind words of appreciation! 🙂 And yes, yes! – unquestionably, I do believe that Dylan and Eric were very much Indigo Children to the core. Just read through this criteria and you will see that much of it, if not all, fits the boys to a tee.

*Question authority, have difficulty with discipline and authority. Their rebellion may be quiet and expressed as being very stubborn and “not listening” or extreme into oppositional and defiant behavior. Do not respond to guilt trips, want good reasons

* Clear Sight. Indigos are naturally able to see beyond a person’s exterior and see the truth. They are natural truth seers in all aspects and have a difficult time being a part of the illusion. This means they do not act inauthentically and if they do it causes discomfort. They do not do well in occupations that require schmoozing and have a great disdain for small talk. Their relationships are deep and meaningful with other authentic people. They are less likely to place value onto fashion and material things.

*Do not do well in systems and are mostly nonconformists. They refuse to follow orders or directions. Systems do not make sense to Indigos and if the rules do not make sense they will not follow them and will actively work to break down any system that does not serve an authentic purpose. This includes school. The bold Indigos will be the ones actively questioning an administrator or teacher. They will be holding personal or public protests against an injustice in the system. The quiet ones will be suffering internally which may not be apparent to others, even those close to them.

* High School is difficult for Indigos. Many Indigos have a very difficult in high school. They get frustrated by ritual-oriented systems that require little creativity.
Often see better ways of doing thing at home and at school. Their core has a strong self esteem, a connection to source and they know they belong here unless they are told or made to feel otherwise by peers.The lucky ones are invisible as a means to survive the unlucky ones are bullied. Indigos are different and have a really hard time hiding it as it would mean being inauthentic which Indigos cannot do for very long. High school is all about being inauthentic and putting on an appearance despite the truth underneath. Indigos cannot play this game and high school is incredibly torturous for many.

* Patience is not an Indigo virtue. Waiting in line, traffic, slow results, “dumb” people are especially frustrating to Indigos and being understanding of these givens in life also does not come easily.

*Vocal and opinionated. Being old souls, Indigos are born knowing exactly what they want and even how to do it. They have an obvious sense of self and do not easily rely on others for help and will frustrate themselves or give up before asking for help. They are often open about what they believe and their beliefs are very strong. You will see this even in Indigo babies.

Dylan fits the following listed below uncannily well. Though, I also think Eric had potential for these abilities such as visionary/daydreaming/intuitive skills which expressed in his Doom wad building skills and his very vivid dream worlds. I just think his abilities were more latent because of how hard he worked to cover up the vulnerable, sensitive side of himself.

*Are gifted and/or talented, highly intelligent Are talented daydreamers and visionaries, rather creative. They develop abstract thinking very young. They get bored rather easily with assigned tasks

*Very sensitive. This is seen in most senses but more so with regard to emotional sensitivity. The term “Emo” is popular slang now to describe someone who is “EMOtional” to a non-conventional level. Indigos may have once or currently are cutters and many Indigos had/have suicidal thoughts and feelings. But they often feel the pain and feelings of others and being in public places is difficult.

*They can have either strong empathy for others or conversely, NO empathy

* Have spiritual intelligence and/or psychic, strong intutitive skills. The most important trait of an Indigo is that they have intuitive/empathic/clairvoyant/medium abilities. This is the reason they are here and they will often have scary and disturbing experiences if they do not have access to someone who knows how to properly guide them.

*Depression is common. This seems separate from being emotionally sensitive. The depression seems to stem from not actualizing their personal power and not having a connection with other Indigos. When their power is not cultivated and they are not in contact with others like themselves a significant level of loneliness and depression occurs. They are aware of the significance of their purpose in this lifetime but they have no idea what to do with it or even what it is about. They feel strange and misunderstood.

*Feeling alien. Some Indigos actually feel like they are from another planet others feel that the families they are born in and/or where they were born does not feel right. They will naturally distance themselves from the families and/or hometowns and relocate to an area that feels more like home. They may also re-create families with friends that feel more natural. They are the black sheep of where they live and/or of their family which can cause a great deal of emotional pain as the other family members or community members will act out their misunderstanding towards them. Indigos are natural survivors so they will make changes soon after they turn 18 if the environment is not supportive.

*They often express anger outwardly rather than inwardly and may have trouble with rage. They need our support to discover themselves. They are here to change the world – to help us live in greater harmony and peace with one another and to raise the vibration of the planet. However, unsupported and frustrated, Indigos can take their natural propensity for positive change and creativity and invert it into rebellious, revolutionary, creatively destruction as Dylan and Eric did by rocking the world and shaking up the system in an act of cataclysmic violence in order to call attention to their disastisfaction with society.

This article here addresses Understanding Indigo Violence and specifically mentions Columbine in the article:

“In hearing about the school shootings, I knew Indigo children were pulling the triggers. The Columbine High School shooting was so horrific it caught everyone’s attention. At the time my eldest daughter said to me, "Because they (Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold) were Indigos they wanted to do it, so they just did it. No remorse, no guilt, they just went ahead and shot all those people because they wanted to and felt they needed to.” Indigo children don’t have guilt to keep them in check and because they balk at authority they don’t believe they have to follow the rules. To keep the no guilt in balance in the Indigo children, they have to be taught spiritual and moral principles. Indigos have to be taught the laws of the universe, especially the law of cause and effect. Since they have no guilt, they have to understand that the negative energy put out will return to them magnified, just as positive energy will return magnified. They are accountable to God and they are responsible for their actions.

I hear people remark that school shootings didn’t happen when we were children. The worst that happened at school when we were growing up was fistfights, bloody noses and name-calling. We would never dream of taking a gun to school to shoot other kids, it wasn’t heard of. The reason we didn’t have the caliber of violence seen today is because the Indigos were not here on the planet back then.

Writers in mainstream America like Jonathan Kellerman are lumping the Indigo school shooters with the psychopaths; the dark entities who are bullies, con men, stalkers, victimizers, serial killers and those who kill for thrills. I don’t believe these Indigo children who have taken weapons to school to harm other children are psychopaths. They have been bullied and teased and have an avenger attitude seeking justice for injuries inflicted on them. They aren’t killing just for the thrill of killing. These kids know changes have to be made within the school system and they chose violence to make their statement, to give us a wake up call. Some of these metaphysical Indigo children are not hesitant about using violence to bring about change, and to bring us to enlightenment. They are like a sword cutting to the truth, but a sword cuts and wounds and makes you bleed. Historically speaking, change on this planet has come about violently. In the present days, it is violence and violent acts that catch our attention and make us realize there might be a problem. So this is the method some Indigos are using to bring about enlightenment calculated from a soul level”.

h4le-bopp:

We know that Dylan was a fan of Atari Teenage Riot, because he draw their logo into his schoolplanner as well he wrote down an lyric-excerpt from their song “Atari Teenage Riot”: “Power for those who can fuck it, Freedom for those can find it, Sex for those who can buy it!”. I don’t know, what releases of them he specificially heard and/or bought, but since the song was on their first Album “Delete Yourself”, I assume that he had that one (the song also was released as a single though).
Anyway, another song on this Album is “Into the Death” and I think the lyrics actually do a good job on catching Dylans mindset.
At first the title “Into the Death” represents what Dylan came to crave the most and during the song it is repeteadly shouted, almost like an order or some sort of brainwashing propaganda. 
Also noteworthy is that the lyrics are calling on the listener to revolt and take violent action, while at the same time emphasize the hopelessness of his situation. I think that is something, Dylan definitive could identifiy with: “Terror worldwide! you can’t run away, you can’t hide! I came to get you! get down (…) There’s no escape from where you coming from; we’re going to the top where we belong!” The “we’re going to the top where we belong!” line almost sounds exactly like something I’d imagine Eric might say to Dylan. 
Some more lines that present what I’m talking about: “Maybe we sit down and talk about the revolution and stuff but it doesn’t work like that! You can’t turn back now, there’s no way back! You feel the power to destroy your enemy!”
Quite some motivating lines when you’re planning an attack, eh? 
And there is another line that almost could be the chore-line of how Dylan felt towards his human life on earth: “Life is like a Videogame with no chance to win…”
But the similarities do not even end here. As you will know, Dylan did not only seek death and destruction during the attack, but believed that he would spend the afterlife in a heavenly place with his love. Well, during one point at the song, the female singer Hanin Elias tells us in a quite erotic voice: “And welcome to my Paradise…there’s no good reason to keep you alive, die die die, my darling…”. The “welcome to my paradise”-line sounds like she is telling the listener, that he will enter the named paradise after death, which kinda reminds me of the 72 virgins that are believed to wait for Martyrs in extremist Islam.

(Source: http://h4le-bopp.tumblr.com/)

Sorry this probably sounds ignorant – I’m new to exploring the story of Eric and Dylan. What exactly does the sign mean? The symbol, I mean. Is there a meaning provided – is it a recurring symbol or perhaps a signature to Dylan/Eric? What does it mean? Thankyou.

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Oh, please don’t worry about coming across ‘ignorant’. If you’re just exploring D & E, it’s a perfectly logical question on your part.  🙂  I’m guessing you are referring to the Triple Barred Cross which is basically the essence of my blog. The ‘Everlasting-Contrast’ cross is specifically Dylan’s.   I go a bit into the significance and symbolism of his personal cross in relation to the earring that Dylan always wore in this post.

“Okay, they listened to Marilyn Manson, but not like some people. They listened to him every once in a while. They listened to Nine Inch Nails. They listened to Rammstein.

They listened to Rammstein and Nine Inch Nails and KMFDM because of the beats. Because Dylan wanted to be a drummer. He didn’t even know what they were saying in Rammstein. He doesn’t speak German. He just liked the beat of the song. The same with Dr. Octagon, D.J. Spookie, all those techno bands. They’ve got these beats to them.”

– Devon Adams

(Who tends to view her friend Dylan through rose colored glasses…)

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Dylan was a typical Virgo,it seems like-quiet,shy,intelligent,and also self conscious? It seems to me like he was a typical Virgo

Dylan’s sun sign was Virgo and yes, I would agree with you that he came across a ‘typical’ Virgo. 🙂  The Sun Sign represents the self, one’s personality and ego, the spirit and what it is that makes the individual unique. It is essentially our identity and our face to the world. The motto of a Virgo would be “I analyze” and based on some of the posts I’ve been doing recently on Dylan’s philosophical ruminations, it’s obvious that Dylan had a natural propensity for analyzing thoughts and ideas in his head. Virgos seek perfection in themselves and others. They are inquisitive, logical,  methodical, modest, self-restraint, introverted, can be shy and cautious, curious. An intellectual at heart and may seem that they are not connected to their feelings, however, they figure out their feelings by using their head. The are selective when choosing friends and partners and so can seem aloof.  However, the fact that Dylan had quite a bit of Libran influence in chart tended to soften out any of his potential overly critical, anal retentive tendencies. Of course, his depression was a factor in making him more of a slacking lazy-butt where as otherwise he might naturally be more exacting and precise. i.e. the Dylan ‘font’ might look a little more easier to read.  Though you can see in the way he writes a book report or writes a journal entry that he has a certain manner of doing things consistently: date at the top right, Thought-Box at the bottom/middle left side of the page. So, he has a certain structure to the way he does things even if the handwriting was a bit on the sloppy side. 😉   But, yes, Dylan was the epitome of the quiet, introverted, intelligent guy with specific, discerning tastes in his ideal girl.