was Dylan anything like sue believed he was? Eg he smoked, she didn’t know..he drank so much he was given a nickname, she didn’t know..he took part in the “rebel missions”, she didn’t know etc

Teenagers always have their secret things they compartmentalize and do under their parent’s radar. The examples of things you listed which Dylan did behind his mom’s back and apparently unbeknownst to Sue, is very common teenage boy stuff. Are any teenagers like what most parents believe they are in their rose colored perspective? Probably not. There are also things that parents refuse to see too. For example, Sue said she’d smelled cigarette smoke on Dylan at a certain point and when she confronted him, he denied it. She flat out believed him even though the scent was obvious. I fail to see how he could’ve smoked so regularly while away from home that Sue didn’t smell it on him more often or become suspicious more than just once.

In what journal entry did dylan write about sasha?

why didnt dyl mention the date with kristen in his writing :s

Wouldn’t Dylan, who’s wanting love so badly, write about his dates in the “journals”

Dylan never wrote about specific happenings in his life in his writings. In other words, he never wrote linear details like “I went out with Kristen last Saturday and we went to the movies and we had a fun time.” The only time he referenced being with a girl and not enjoying his time is in connection with Sasha Jacobs and that is based on the timeline coinciding with her saying they went out in October and his journal entry mentions that month. He refers to his experience as “being on the zombie bliss side and hating it” (doing the dating thing that most humans usually have a great time doing) and that the experience felt “phony” basically an empty, shallow experience with this girl. But he never blatantly talks specifically about the date and what they did together or why it sucked. Make sense? So, even if it’s true that Dylan went out with Kristen in the last months, his writing had tapered off after Jan ‘99 and so he didn’t make a point of writing any particular feelings down between Jan up until his last days. Here is the bit on Sasha Jacobs

Did dating really move that slow in the 90s? I feel like 20+ dates is too much to not have went to the next step.

Well, first we have to keep in mind that Eric and Dylan were insecure about girls and how to engage with them. Casually interacting in school with chicks or in a non threatening mixed group going bowling was one thing but getting a girl all to themselves on a date would’ve been complicated and painfully difficult. So, if they were lucky to land a date, the two were not inclined to be assertive to step up their dating game making moves because they feared rejection. Eric played it safe on his dates being that nice, polite gentlemanly guy focusing on taking the girl out to eat or to the movies. It was so out of Dylan’s league that he just clammed up on that blind date with Sasha.

Secondarily, the nineties actually was a little more slower paced with the dating game and intimacy for the sheer fact that everyone was not connected constantly on devices, texting/sexting one another or having porn readily available as a random pastime and remedy for boredom and loneliness. Dating back then wasn’t just about the Netflix and Chill. Dudes were ecstatic to get a girl’s pager numbers or give their own so they could get to the next step by actually calling the girl and *gasp!* talking on the phone just to converse *gasp!* or to get around to asking the girl out on a date. People were not going on the internet every second of the day. You had to dial in to get a crappy, slow internet connection. Many parents limited their kids time on the Internet or the family didn’t even have a home computer yet. Those that made it online usually did the AOL chat room thing or AOL instant messages while you were online. But that form of communication to get to know people was not the normal thing for a good many people yet. In a small, white bread, mainly Christian suburban community like Littleton, dating was an actual thing you did with various stages of fooling around and then eventually having sex. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there was plenty of easy chicks and dudes that had sex on the first date but in terms of it being the nineties in this type of conservative community, not the norm.

Why do you think the girls haven’t released the photos. For their own safety, or because they would find them distasteful?

Strictly because they are not obligated nor ever were, to release any of their private photos of themselves with friends to the public. Why do people think that all photos ever taken by friends with E and D must be shared with the public? There is no good reason for it and yeah, it’s distasteful for these friends in having experienced all these moments with their two knucklehead friends of theirs that betrayed not only them but everyone else in the school by destroying lives of those that died as well as the living too simply from the massive fallout from it. Having a photo of themselves with these two aired publicly is kind not something they’d especially want to willingly do.

So did Eric have a first kiss? He never mentions it. Although I don’t see it being a significant event for him. Just something to get over with, some kind of societal expectation. He mostly seemed to do things to prove himself.

That’s debatable when you consider that Eric dated Sasha Jacobs fall of ‘97 to early ‘98 and he wrote his essay Spit vs Kiss in September of ‘98. I’d say based on the fact that he still views the act of kissing and spitting as virtually the same disgusting thing, that he did not get very far in the making out department let alone just a simple kiss on the lips with Sasha. Though, maybe just a simple peck on the lips or cheek with Sasha? Most guys that kiss a girl a couple times want to experiment more and practice kissing deeper as they find themselves physically enjoying the sensation of it. I tend to think Eric did next to nothing if anything at all with Sasha if his view on kissing is still at that immature “ew gross cooties” stage by Fall of ‘98.

I know this is a longshot but any chance the pictures Eric was in at after prom show he was dressed in a tux or anything formal or did he just wear his regular clothes since it was an after prom party?

No, Eric didn’t wear formal wear since he didn’t attend the prom dance and only crashed the casual After prom. Dylan had changed out of his tux after the dance (you can just imagine that he was probably itching to get out of that stuffy, ill fitting tux) and was wearing casual clothes at After prom too.

I wonder how Dylan felt when Sasha went after Eric. And why Eric didn’t object. They were said to have gone out 20+ times. It’s very odd for someone to date someone and their friend as well.

How do you think Dylan felt when the girl that went on a date with him, preferred to go out with Eric?

Sasha didn’t attend Columbine High but another school. Chad Laughlin introduced Sasha to the boys. We know this because Eric writes in Chad Laughlin’s yearbook a nasty little dig about Sasha being “fat and whiny” and he only went out with her cause “he felt sorry for her” and then proceeds to ask Chad to hook him up with more chicks. The date between Sasha and Dylan wasn’t serious. It was a ‘get to know you’ kind of casual date. Since Sasha didn’t click with Dylan, she had also met Eric too through Chad so she decided to give it a try with Eric. Dylan writes in his journal how disappointed he is; he had high hopes on his very first date but he realized Sasha was “phony shit” and he wanted the real thing, “true love”. There was no hard feelings between Dylan and Eric both getting a shot dating Sasha. Yes, Eric and Sasha dated a few months or about 20 times and apparently never became a closer relationship. It ended not so well and Eric was threatening Sasha in emails and such. Based on that fact, I would say that she ended their dating and Eric was pissed off that she dumped him first.

I don’t really understand you, a lot of the information/responses you have to people don’t seem legit, or they’re drawn out like you wrote some weird fan fiction

What is it that doesn’t seem legit for you anon?  And hey, that’s okay if you don’t understand me; I don’t understand me too at times. lol  

Gotta say, the reality that is Columbine reads like some weird fan fiction at times, tbh.  Maybe that’s partly why people are so drawn to it and sucked into it’s vortex for good. 

Dylan is giggling and skipping in radioactive clothing, it’s hard to believe he acted like a cold hard killer later on. The entire thing was a performance, right down to the costumes.

Skipping?   Wait, what. Did I miss something, like some unedited version of RAC?  😉

The two were half living in a fantasy world on a daily basis, so yeah, they liked playing powerful macho dudes in their school video productions and in a way, those were a kind of dress rehearsal performance for the last theatrical production they would pull off as the uber ‘cold hard NBK killer’.  Only that last curtain call wouldn’t at all live up to the fantasies they’d build over it for nearly a year.  They tanked as a permanent flop and an all around immortalized bad production.