What I meant was biologically speaking, a dude can father/produce a child beginning anywhere from the age of 12-14. But yes, I getcha that the youngest would be 16. I think this discussion might’ve been better discussed in private message? 😉

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I suppose I’ll just go with the short answer of yes because the info below will give you all the info you need to know. 😏 Reminder here, that Dylan was by no means a perfect angel. He was mostly known as generally nice and gentle with people but there were times his nasty streak would emerge and rear it’s ugly head with people, and girls on occasion. Though, I should think that fairly obvious that Dylan had shades of gray and his dark side won out with what he chose to do on 4/20. So his sometimes naughty behavior with girls should come as no great shocker.

Amanda Paukune [1,074] DK was “mean and sarcastic” to her

Jacquelyn Baker [25,053] DK scared her — the way he walked and looked at her

Laura Stewart [7,216] did not associate with DK because he was “very annoying”

Lane Newton [5,058] had class with Klebold – when she offered to partner with him on class project “he got upset and turned her offer down, refusing to be her partner” (2-3 weeks before 4/20)

Jerry Snow [17,957] in 8th grade his daughter got threatening letter from EH, DK and others

Dylan in gym class (related to the two accounts below)

Tara Zobjeck [7,380 and 7,416 ] DK called her “bitch” after gym incident; harassed her, pushed people, tackled girls, cheated in gym

Redacted) [10,286] DK called girl a bitch during flag football; other boy intervened, told DK to back off

Michelle Hartsough
[10,150] DK was rude/difficult; hit her once because she counseled him on infraction at work

Extra careful, yes. Too smart to think he’d have the science and technique down of the just-in-time pullout since the potential failure in that risk could result in getting a girl knocked up. Sex would not be take with such reckless disregard for Mr. Klebold. 😏

The chance of his gifted intelligence being hereditary and passed down to his son or daughter would’ve definitely been a possibility. I do think Dylan’s dad is gifted, a very intellectual sort of fellow whereas his mom has a high emotional intelligence. And Dylan’s hypothetical children would’ve been much too young to have processed their father for what he’d done. Even in growing up and being told about their infamous dad, they’d likely be able to process it in an objective, detached sort of way from people having told them about their dad. It’d be different if they knew their dad up to a sentient age of say 5-6 onward and then he’d done the deed. His children would’ve had to process it all from a very personally intense way: trying to make sense of his abandonment of them, missing him all the while eventually being told at some point “your father did a very bad thing’. Then yes, they’d be messed up and trying to come to terms with processing it all throughout their lives.

There were few times when Dylan came close to a physical fight and I’d say primarily with the jocks who he strongly despised.

One student Sean Bigg [2476] remembers the Friday prior to 4/20, Dylan picking a fight with an unidentified jock [002476].
Ali Boukhalfa [2522] said they had heard second hand that Brett Sullivan accidentally bumped into Klebold which turned into a pushing/shoving contest between the two. Keith Parkinson [1069] almost got into a physical fight with Dylan. Chris Walker {2236] heard from someone that once Dylan was ‘very scary’, there was a fight and Dylan was ‘going crazy’.

Granted, some of these are second hand stories but I’d say they’re not exactly fabricated witnessed accounts. If it came down to a physical fight with someone Dylan looked upon as an enemy, I would say that it was more than within his capacity to easily access that suppressed anger that was just under the surface and fly into a fit of rage. I think he would’ve found it quite satisfying to physically attack, slam, punch and pummel a jock to a bloody pulp. I think he fantasized about this often. While Dylan was no competition in the build, the muscular physique of your average jock, he would’ve made up for it in his height and more importantly, the reckoning force of his anger. Dylan would’ve been formidable in the intensity of his anger that had been simmering just under the surface for quite some time. This doesn’t mean that he’d win at the fight necessarily only that he’d give his opponent one hell of a tough time of it. A very scary time of it too because of how red and rage-filled Dylan’s face would become. His demeanor would be..surprising to say the least.. to a jock who had misjudged him as just your average geeky loser fag. And yes, I think he could’ve won too. Never provoke a KleBOLDian. They appear more meek than they actually are. 😉

Aww, thanks..and here we go again with this question. 😜 And, c’mon now, should this really be about a competition and pitting these two best buds up against one another for y’alls amusement? Can we not make sexual circus freaks out of the boys, aye? 😏 Poor Dyl, he is perpetually beet red over these types of Qs. 😳 I feel for him, I reeeally do. Plus, if you like one more than the other, wouldn’t it just be sort of a given that you’d probably, idk, tend to prefer their style better? Anyway, I did answer this ask before the other day – it was just a-hem, phrased a little differently, yesss. Answer here.

Certainly. 😊 And thanks, it’s fun to translate Dyl-speak.

Dylan’s parents weren’t really rich though perhaps upper middle class over a period of time.

In 1990, the family moved to a dramatic house of gray slate and glass in Deer Creek Canyon, Tom Klebold bought the house for a bargain of $65,000 because it needed a lot of electrical work, which he tackled happily. It was a good move as the location plus the renovations would increase the value of the property over time in an upper middle class rural neighborhood. Dylan’s parents underwent fnancial difficulty there for a while which I believe put some stress on the marriage. I think this occured when they first moved there and were trying to get established when their kids were young. Both Dylan’s parents worked so they weren’t just independently wealthy and living a luxury lifestyle. Tom worked/works from home doing real estate but I think he also diversified and has other side projects for sources of income and Sue worked in education and at the time, helped youth with learning disabilities. Both Dylan’s parents understood good work ethics and making sure that their kids got that you earn a living and stuff isn’t just handed to you for free. Like I said in the previous post, one Christmas, Dylan wanted a certain baseball card that was rare and expensive and Sue decided to give it to him but made sure he knew that was the only thing he was to get for a present that holiday. Dylan would go to school and see all these richie kids wearing new clothes everyday, receiving new cars from their parents and pretty much everything just handed over to them. The entitlement his classmates had turned him off a great deal. Dylan’s dad worked on renovating old luxury cars and so he he gave Dyl an old ‘82 crappy BMW. Dylan disliked the thought of driving around in a status-y car enough to pop the BMW emblems off the front/rear of the car and shove them in his glovebox. So, Dylan may have grown up in a neighborhood that appeared upper class and wealthy with a large home but his lifestyle within his family upbringing was average and humble. Yes, Eric grew up in a middle class neighborhood within the context of class of Littleton. His home with a two car garage was still pretty nice but rather modest in comparison to the area. Eric also understand the values of working a job and earning things on his own as well as mowing the lawn, doing house chores, etc. – stuff that wealthy kids, like for example, Elliot Rodger, would never have had to lift his finger to do a day in his life.

As a footnote, with all the suing that went on with the Klebolds and Harris’ after the massacre, they’re likely in some sort of perpetual debt. The Klebold’s sell their house annually and buy it back though some sort of loophole transaction within their LLC – I’m not exactly sure how it works but it probably has something to do with tax breaks and saving them money probably to help them stay there at that beautiful house while paying off their debts.

Yeah, that’d certainly be the decent thing to do for sure. Don’t suppose there’s much I can do about it unless someone wants to point it out to them. Ahh, the internet.. Thanks for letting me know though.

You may have a point there. *shrugs*  Though, by comparison, I do think Elliot tended to be far more of a whiny prick than E & D.  Elliott wins the most spoiled award, he is the epitome of it.  Dude was living a luxury life style and the monetary opportunity ways and means and that still wasn’t good enough for him because he was so completely empty, arrogant but lonely on the inside.  By comparison, E & D worked and earned a paycheck to fund their operation. Dylan and Eric hated the elite, entitled richie kids in school whose parents would spoil them with anything and everything.  Snobby, entitled kids very much like Elliot.  Eric and Dylan disliked the shallow, vapid community that was Littleton. Dylan once only got a baseball card for Christmas because it was rare and pricey and his parents didn’t want to spoil him.  He understood the value of earning something.  The two got the regular, humble crap cars from their parents to start with and Elliot drove a luxury BMW but nothing he obtained would ever impress as he’d hoped because it amounted to the fact that he was super unimpressed with himself.  

Unlike you, I’m not glad that any of them – Dylan and Eric or Elliot even, felt they had to resort to taking lives and blowing their brains out as a last scream for attention. It’s sad all the way around.  If we all continue to barely see the difference in distinguishing one mass murderer from the other and recognizing the individuality between them then things will never change and one will interchangeably take the others place for the apathetic masses who just shrug their shoulders in cavalier response. 

I can’t really say for certain but, ah, what I can tell you is that he had a big nose, large hands and feet. You do the math. 😏

Enough to use caps, apparently. 😉

Thank you for sharing the depth of your feelings. 😍

Dylan said his older brother Byron, and Byron’s friends, constantly “ripped” on him.  I think it was the usual “I’m the older brother and you’re the tag along baby. Get lost.” pecking order type thing.  Bryon was asserting his position as oldest and when his friends came over, he probably had that group think ‘gang’ mentality where Bryon within the context of his group of sporty guy friends thought it’d be fun to tease and harass Dylan for his likes and style of dress, etc.  I’d say this type of thing started by the time Bryon was a preteen, twelve to thirteen, and started wanting to do that distancing thing from his parents and so it was no longer cool to be seen with his youngest brother hanging out with him,  So, when the two boys were alone together, it might’ve been okay but when his friends were around, he treated Dylan shitty.  

That’s not to say they didn’t get along at all as brothers it’s just that Dylan always knew his place as the youngest, the baby, the ‘runt of the litter’, simply because of the age gap between the two.  The two weren’t quite close enough in age to connect and identify in school but were just close enough to irritate one another.  Bryon had more social status in school and with friends than Dylan but conversely, Dylan was smarter than Bryon.  Both boys got the subtle undercurrent that mom and dad coveted Dylan’s ‘gifted’ intelligence talents. Bryon must’ve felt that he was not considered by his parents to be in the same league of potentiality with the intellectual gifts that Dylan possessed.  Bryon, as the average level son, chose to spend time partying, smoking weed and living the limiting, empty lifestyle of a zombie – basically screwing around, messing up his life and Dylan, in turn, began to despise his older bro for freeloading at home and doing nothing and causing mom and dad grief with his drug habit. So, by the time, Bryon was (supposedly) kicked out of the house by his parents and was too busy living life on his own at twenty up in Aurora (working at a car dealership), Dylan had all but disconnected from his older sibling.  He no longer cared one way or another if he’d never ever hear from Byron again.  In Dylan’s diversion program file, he mentioned that in regards to his lack of a relationship with Bryon “not a problem”.