I have a feeling Eric would agree with some of the shit Eliot Rodger said but most of all he would want to bomb his house lol.

Well, I’ll give Eric credit for at least trying with girls; he was persistent even in his failure. (how’s that for the peeps who feel I hate Eric just for the heck of it, hm :-P?)  Dylan who was deeply shy but still, even he managed to put himself out there a tad with girls.  Elliot was just stuck like a broken record on the inadequacy of his looks, the narcissism to compensate for that self-hatred, and his obsession with material possessions and then dumping the blame on women he’d never even met let alone said ‘hi’ to.  The dude perpetually complained yet did nothing.  I think Rebster would eventually get tired of listening to the pussy and would want to naturally select him out of his misery.   This makes for hilarious mass murderer cross-over fanfic, btw. 😉 

In all seriousness though, it’s unfortunate that Elliot had what amounted to major psychological issues that seemed to stem from early childhood about his race (as evinced in his manifesto), and he just grew more isolated and socially disconnected as he grew older.  It’s unfortunate that his family and friends who knew him did not seem to identify that there was something gravely wrong and to get him into intensive therapy, the sort that would help expose him to situations with people and being around females and learning how to interact and connect with people.   

Was dylan good friends with Alex m? She doesn’t look like the type that would get along with him.

Yes, Dylan was friends, though not good friends, with Alejandra Marsh.  He passed the time with her and Vennessa in the morning playing card games in the Commons before school started.  Alex was a very out-spoken, anti authority tom boy-ish chick and pretty much sympathized with the boys and TCM over the favoritism culture in CHS.  Dylan didn’t have a type of girl  he chose to associate with – just whoever treated him like a person, he accepted. Being relegated to the outcast group, his associations were limited.

Who do you think would be better in the sack: Eric or Dylan?

To be fair, I think each would bring to ‘the sack’, as you say, their own skills and enthusiasm but it’s a bit like comparing apples to oranges.  Eric was a horn dog in all his frustration and so in his mind, the turn-on was wanting to perform aries caveman style with that raw physical vigor and force of ravishing a girl until her senses are overloaded and she can’t even think straight. He’d need to feel masterful in pleasing the girl.  Once he got more experience with copious amounts of just vigorous, straight vanilla-hard sex,  I think Eric would be pleasantly surprised to find the tables turned on him as the girl was suddenly on top of him, pinning his arms up over his head and driving him insane. He’d have asserted himself enough times with her that relinquishing the compulsive need to be in charge could be freeing for once to surrender to her taking the lead at times in bed.  For Dylan it would be a bit more complex and nuanced because he’d need to not only feel an attraction to the girl but also know her well enough to feel comfortable in letting go and being sexually free. In the very beginning, she would need to make a point of encouraging him with well placed moans and guiding his hands to roam over her body and then he’d feel that the permission was fully given and he’d be so properly heated and worked up enough to perform and let himself go and unleash that hidden, latent wild side of his.  Eventually with each time, his confidence would build enough where he could begin to share his fantasies and incorporate kinks, wrestling with one another and incorporating some bondage play with those intricately, strategically placed rope and knots. As a dude with heavy Libra in his chart, it’s all about the balancing act and would often involve equal exchanges of power play, switching, taking turns with who will be more in control of the other this go-round but always with his intent of making sure that she receives pleasure before his own. That would be the reward for him.  Cuddling, loving and after care would be just as important if not more to him.  Kissing her forehead, spooning, locking legs. The close connection and sensually laying together after an intense session of whatever direction they explored and where they ended up psychologically would be nurturing and deepen the bond between the two of them. Loving and bonding would be a super important component for Dylan greatly enhancing and merging the expression of the physical, lustful act of sex and the games that goes along with it. So, in answering your question, different strokes for different folks?   I think the common thing both would share would be enthusiasm to please the partner so they in turn could feel godlike in the sack with their lady love. 😉 

Planning for a year and have horrible weapons. Seems legit.

Yep, these two were homespun, creative and innovative and more importantly, on a shoestring budget. 😉 Though, I’ll hand it to Eric for working two jobs in the summer of ‘98, (begrudingly) paying that monthly auto insurance bill and still setting aside a wad of cash for his mission and whatever was left over went to music cds and weekend entertainment. They managed to get their weapons legit too rather than borrowing from mommy and daddy (I’m sure Eric’s parents had guns, yeah). Entirely self reliant and ‘let’s work with what fate tossed us and make it stick’ sort of dudes. Crap weapons but weapons nontheless that could kill or at least maim. That was basically all that was needed. Plus, they planned for the homemade propane bombs to do most of their damage.

was Byron popular?

In comparison to Dylan, much more popular but not exactly among the “popular” cliques of his own grade level. I think just middle-of-the-road average peers and associated with some jock friends as he actually participated in school sports whereas Dylan frowned upon that scene (mainly because he got the message he didn’t fit in and was automatically excluded).

hi, i just wanted to let you know that i think your writing and answers to asks are so great and well put together, it seems like you really take your time to think and reflect when you answer. lots of dimension, perspectives and wisdom, not just either condemning or condoning like many others sadly do, and thats beautiful. it takes something to see the human past it all.. plus your playlist, it really soothes me. i love your blog and i hope you have a nice day (or night) wherever you are!

Getting a message the likes of yours makes it all worth it and why I haven’t seriously contemplated a hiatus..yet. I’m truly honored you feel this way about E-C – and all that you’ve mentioned is the balance, purity and reflection I pretty much hope to strive to achieve. 😊 Oh, hey now, my playlist being described as ‘soothing’ ? That is just the icing on the cake. Thank you! 😘

Most ironic thing about this Devon stuff? She said Eric was the one who got mad at her for taking Zack away from the group in an interview. She had no idea what Dylan was feeling. Dylan felt the same exact way, and expressed this in his journals. He even said, “His girlfriend, Devon (who I wouldn’t mind killing)”. Doesn’t sound like a real close friendship to me.

I’ve explained this all before here but I’ll reiterate again: Dylan was resentful that Devon, and keep in mind – it could’ve been any girl for that matter that Zack fell for, had taken the number one precedence in Zack’s life over himself.
Any girl that put Dylan in the Number Two position, relegating him to the backseat of Zack’s life would’ve automatically made him hurt and mournful.   Thing is, Dylan was friends with both Devon and Zack so it put Dylan in a tough spot.  Devon had no idea what Dylan was feeling because he, as per usual, suppressed his jealousy and upset in the face of both his friends.  His journal was the outlet for his jealousy and resentment that Devon was Zack’s new shiny novelty.  We’ve all been in that nasty frame of mind at some point in our lives where we muttered angrily under our breathe’s that we’d like to kill someone when we’re Tee’d off with them. It’s cathartic to release that frustration. It’s a figurative thing not a literal death threat, people  Yet, we have to remember that Dylan stuck it out with his hidden jealousy and he remained friends with Devon through his struggle to adjust to Zack and Devon being ‘a couple’.  Devon and Dylan slow danced at prom 2.5 days before 4/20; they remained a relationship as close friends.  Whereas if you put Eric in the same spot as Dylan, Eric would’ve burned his bridges with her..and well, he pretty much did just that. It was either the three guys together or ‘take the highway,bitch!’  Eric was not as inclusive as Dylan turned out to be which is why Dylan had and kept many more friends than Eric did. But you can hardly blame Devon for falling in love with Zack. It’s not as though she selected him on purpose just to cause a rift between all three dudes. Love happens and when two become a couple everyone else has to shuffle around to allow for that relationship to exist. 

Was Devon in love with Dylan? She said something this past anniversary about how she never told him how much he meant to her and that “no one needs the kind of regret that comes from not taking the chance at love.”

This question was already answered here

What this amounts to is that Devon regrets that she did not take a chance on verbally telling Dylan on prom night: “you are such a good friend to me, I love you for having been there for me. you mean a lot to me, Dylan.” In her mind she thinks one small gesture like that might have made some sort of difference to stop what he was about to do.

Devon isn’t that great in my opinion cause from what I could tell from her interviews she’s definitely in the camp of “Dylan was the unwilling follower and Eric the ruthless leader”. I just think she’s a bit bias, at least when it comes to Eric and Dylan

Well, I think she’s more than entitled to have her biases over Eric and Dylan and for a pretty legit reason – she knew them in the flesh. She hung out with these boys and experienced first hand what their temperaments were like so her viewpoint is an informed one based on up close and personal experience with the two. I think she’s pretty qualified to have her opinions and and biases certainly more than any of us here on the tag are. *shrugs* Initially, she was friends with both boys until Eric began to eventually alienate her yet she maintained her friendship with Dylan. Her view of Eric is colored because his actions with her left a bad taste in her mouth. And as for the ‘follower camps’ thing you referenced, if anything, Devon’s opinion tends to be that Eric often followed Dylan’s trends, so? meh..

Eye Contact and the rare Balaclava sighting

Vennessa then stated that she then saw Dylan Klebold outside wearing a balaclava [dark blue or black], and a trench coat; did not see if he was wearing a hat or not.When asked by both investigators how she knew it was Dylan, Vennessa stated that they made eye contact, that the same party was the same build as Dylan and that she just knew.  …Dylan then walked into the cafeteria through the double doors and was approximately 40 feet away when they made direct eye contact and she knew without a doubt it was Dylan Klebold. – Vennessa Grimes

..every day when she comes into the school, she makes entry into the school through the cafeteria doors. She advised that most every day she comes in, she observes Vennessa Grimes, Alex Marsh and Dylan Klebold all sitting together in a corner of the cafeteria. She advised that these are all subjects who generally dress in black and act a little strange. – Amber Burgess

Dylan witnessed as wearing a Balaclava or ski mask in close proximity to the cafeteria is quite an interesting observation since it’s only witnessed by a few people such as Vennessa Grimes and Wade Allen Frank.  I don’t see how anyone could mistake Dylan’s usual ballcap for a ski mask (which covers a goodly part of the face), particularly someone like Vennessa who had hung out with Dylan quite regularly  She specifically mentioned a ‘balaclava’.  She got a good view of Dylan and at very close up range – 15-40 feet away.  They made direct eye contact. There was recognition between the two: she knew precisely that it was him and he her.  I believe she would have a pretty good idea if it was Dylan in a Balaclava type mask as oppose to him only wearing his usual ballcap.  Since just a few people witnessed the facial mask on Dylan, you have to wonder whether he just tried it on for size for a moment and then decided the damn thing may have looked cool but was too obstructive, hot and sweaty for NBK ‘fun!’  Plus, ultimately, I think both boys wanted to have been seen marking their turf all over the school.